http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?id=47532

I don't really like it.
Maintains 2nd place as being 80% of 1st (and 3rd as 60%), and COMPLETELY destroys any historical point statistics. (yes, I realize they have added races, and increased points awarded in the past, but nothing this drastic!)

Lot's of good things are happening - the manufacturers pulling out has had an interesting effect, the sport is actually better off now...

FOM is doing a great job.

orac2003 - 10 December 2009 04:26 PM

http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?id=47532

I don't really like it.
Maintains 2nd place as being 80% of 1st (and 3rd as 60%), and COMPLETELY destroys any historical point statistics.

^Me neither

I prefer this, copyright Scottxx:
I would rather use 15,12,10,8,6,5,4,3,2,1. This way rewards 1st more and keeps it somewhat close so that someone doesn't lock up the championship mid-way.

The podium point spread remains relative to each other. The fourth fifth and sixth get penalized by 20% seventh remains the same and the last three get a 20% bonus.

I went back and recalculated the previous years and the changes would have been pretty HUGE in the wrap up of 1997. Schumacher would have been leading by 24 points going into the season finally where he chose to be unsportsmanlike... and got disqualified for the season. If he only had to get one point then he probably wouldn't have tried to prevent Villeneuve from passing him because it wouldn't have mattered.. Schui would be an 8 time world champion and in 1999 Mika Häkkinen would not have defended his championship.

Hind sight is hindsight but the record books need to be taken into account as well. Schumacher’s record for most life time points would need to be adjusted from a pre 2010 season lifetime point tally of 1369 to a post 2010 adjusted 3713 points.

I think they should have biased the points out towards the 10 highest places cars while keeping the 10 points for first in mind such that historical records don't need side notes. We've already had a season with half points in it... so why not treat us like adults who can understand non whole numbers and not ruin the record books in the process.

1st - 10
2nd - 8
3rd - 6
4th - 4
5th - 3.2
6th - 2.4
7th - 2
8th - 1.2
9th - 0.8
10th - .4

That all scales out the same as the 25pt for first system but the record books don't get all screwed up. Are we going to become the F1 fans of old who keep bring up the god schumi like the grey haird guis in the corner talk of Jackie Stewart, Emerson Fittipaldi and Stirling Moss? Is this the sign that I am getting old??? My sport is changing and I don't want to recognize that the world is passing me by.... Dammit... The world will go on. The new season will be great!!! No matter how they decide to score it.

IMSA used to use 20-15-12-10-8-6-4-3-2-1

It was more of an incentive for winning.

But the FIA would never copy anything from another sanctioning body.

"Lets put red sidewalls on our soft tires, no wait we will use a white dot that no one can see unless a freeze frame is used in the pits, that way we won't be copying Champ Car, no wait that's not good either, ah just put a white stripe around one of the grooves, wait now lets put it on the sidewall anyway but and make it green sometimes......"

At least the medals system idea is dead. Button would have clinched the championship much earlier in the season.

New scoring = good. It should help to force the drivers to push for positions, especially the top 3. I always wondered why make such a big deal out of the podium, when it isn't that much of a bonus for getting there. Personally I like this change, and hopefully it will help the racing too. but that will remain to be seen.

Also who really cares about historical points recods? I mean really the only historical records that matter from the past are championships. I know that MS record for points in a season, might be "at stake" but you can always compare to percentages, not too mention his wins from that year, wasn't it like he didn't win 2 or 3 races or something? So I think points record don't mean that much except in the season that they are scored in.

wide-front-wing - 10 December 2009 04:29 PM

Lot's of good things are happening - the manufacturers pulling out has had an interesting effect, the sport is actually better off now...

FOM is doing a great job.

Do I detect a wee touch of ironic sarcasm here...?

ShovelerLX - 10 December 2009 10:47 PM

IMSA used to use 20-15-12-10-8-6-4-3-2-1

It was more of an incentive for winning.

But the FIA would never copy anything from another sanctioning body.

"Lets put red sidewalls on our soft tires, no wait we will use a white dot that no one can see unless a freeze frame is used in the pits, that way we won't be copying Champ Car, no wait that's not good either, ah just put a white stripe around one of the grooves, wait now lets put it on the sidewall anyway but and make it green sometimes......"

At least the medals system idea is dead. Button would have clinched the championship much earlier in the season.

The problem with the "medals" system is that it effectively gave points only to the first three places. There was no reward at all for someone who ran well but lost positions because of a botched pit stop or slow traffic. This is a racing series we're talking about, not a one-time event like the Olympics.

Another idea, which probably wouldn't fly, is a low points scoring system as used in yacht racing. The winner gets 0.75 points and each boat behind gets one point for each boat ahead of him. The advantage of that is, the back of the pack in one race isn't necessarily punished all that badly. Also, if one race has more boats than another, the "last place" boat in a small fleet doesn't get stuck with as many penalty points as the last place boat in a large fleet. All DNFs are penalized the same number of points as the last place boat, plus one point.

Just a thought, which I doubt would fly.

GreyWolf74 -

The problem with the "medals" system is that it effectively gave points only to the first three places. There was no reward at all for someone who ran well but lost positions because of a botched pit stop or slow traffic..<snip>...

Imagine that? No reward for substandard performance in an results based Sport.
Think of all the self-esteem that would be destroyed. We can't have that at the highest level of Auto racing can we?

I think it's just plain stupid. So WHAT if you have to get into the top 8 to get points, leave it the h*** alone. Why can't they put their focus on further Overtaking Working Group efforts and leave the points alone ???

Greywolf - I'd love to hear how 26 cars and 19 races is bad...