A charity event... in the dirt... not a race to see who the best in the world is.

The original thread was talking about having all the top riders from all the top series racing to see who the best really was in a year end "fun for the fans to watch" race.

Again, you think that "racing" happens at a track day so I am not surprised you fail to see the difference.

NDSkies - 20 November 2009 11:41 AM

A charity event... in the dirt... not a race to see who the best in the world is.

Mmmmmmm, still not there.

You said this, "Do you think Yamaha really wants to jeapordize there already limited testing schedule with Rossi getting hurt in a race that has no pratical value other than it would be kinda cool?"

So does that description not apply to a charity race (in the real world, not in your basement)?

Ok, I'll answer it for you. Yes, your description fits that race (and this weekends races) perfectly. You said they couldn't happen and they did. You were wrong. Just man up and admit it. I promise I'll leave it be if you just admit to being wrong.

If it had been a race with all the best riders in the world to see who the best racer was, then yes, I would have been wrong.

This was a charity event and the video clearly shows that it was ridden at a charity event pace.

Again, I am sure it was impressive to you as you have enver done anything of the sort.

Leave it be or not... no matter to me.

Right, you said a race with "no practical value"... you didn't specify anything about proving who is the world's best until later.

So you are still wrong. And whatever their pace looked like, since they aren't pro MX riders, it was still enough to risk your famous "crash with a very real possibility that they will not come away from it whole, even in the most innocuous of crashes."

Come on, you can do it. Just be a man and admit you were wrong. It isn't that hard and everyone will thank you for it (cause this thread will die). Even your buddy Gary is staying away from this one.

It is funny how when some people get shown up for being wrong in a discussion they invariably bring up their 'racing experience' to 'prove' that they are always right!

robertorolfo - 20 November 2009 12:11 PM

Right, you said a race with "no practical value"...

From a racing standpoint that race had no practical value. From a charity standpoint it had great value.

That is all.

NEXT!

If the original thread where this was being discussed had centered around a charity event ridden on the dirt I would not have said it would never happen.

But, it did not.
It centered around a race pitting all of the top riders in the top series in the world racing identical bikes on a road racing track.

There is a difference.
Not only the charity vs race, but, in the discipline itself and what those riders excel at. Those riders would not have raced a road course in the same "charitable" manner.

As far as getting shown up, really?
I understand the difference in what is being discussed.
It really is that simple.

There were no specifics discussed. You simply said that any race with "no practical value" (and Gary confirmed that this had none, other than the charity) could not take place. It did.

You also implied that no matter how innocent the crash, any bike crash (and we all know that MX crashes are just as dangerous and road racing crashes, if not more) was too much to risk. It wasn't.

Just be a man and take your medicine. I know that you don't like to lose if it doesn't give you the chance to play dress up for Joe in your wife's clothes, but do it anyway.

Crytic - 20 November 2009 12:13 PM

It is funny how when some people get shown up for being wrong in a discussion they invariably bring up their 'racing experience' to 'prove' that they are always right!

I love this guy... as I do all logical souls.

Here is the original idea being discussed... it was 2 posts above where you pulled my quote.

damattaspeed - 25 September 2009 10:02 AM

ok, ljb. i think you've effectively made your counter argument...

having dusted off that idea, here's another one. perhaps we could put together a race of champions series, like they do in 4 wheel racing.

end of the season, 1 round. top 4 finishers from all major series: AMA, BSB, WSBK, WSS, MOTOGP, 250, on equally prepped bikes racing on fim approved tracks. rotate the tracks each year. WSBK 2 race format.

Seems pretty specific to me.