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Maelochs - 18 November 2009 03:19 PM
Thing is, whether or not Jimmie Johnson wins his fourth, he has still beaten the entire field, may times. Whether or not he wins the title this year ... he has dominated for four years.
Wrecking him once won't change the fact than anyone who might wreck him, was beaten by him repeatedly for the past four seasons.
The only driver who has any business spinning Jimmie would be Denny Hamlin, to make up for the season's first Martinsville race; but he got that back by winning Martinsville in October.
Short term memory issues? Kurt Busch has been the victim of the 48 on a couple occasions this year. I remember him, after JJ wrecked him hard at Sonoma, saying that he was suprised earlier in the year when Jimmie dumped him, but to do it again really got to Kurt.
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Posted: 18 November 2009 10:13 PM
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I think if he does get wrecked intentionally, it will be in the Nationwide race, not the Cup race. No one wants to be "that guy" that wrecks Krashalotski and in the process messes up the Championship between Jimmie and Mark. The title is settled in Nationwide, so it's just a race for the race, no title's at stake. In any case, I think it will be interesting to see if Denny goes through with his threat.
As for why Krashalotski was the one brought in the hauler, I think it may be more that NASCAR understands Denny's frustration and think the more important message is that Brad chill out.
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Posted: 18 November 2009 10:28 PM
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Lovey-Dovey - 18 November 2009 06:20 PM
Maelochs - 18 November 2009 03:19 PM
Thing is, whether or not Jimmie Johnson wins his fourth, he has still beaten the entire field, may times. Whether or not he wins the title this year ... he has dominated for four years.
Wrecking him once won't change the fact than anyone who might wreck him, was beaten by him repeatedly for the past four seasons.
The only driver who has any business spinning Jimmie would be Denny Hamlin, to make up for the season's first Martinsville race; but he got that back by winning Martinsville in October.
Short term memory issues? Kurt Busch has been the victim of the 48 on a couple occasions this year. I remember him, after JJ wrecked him hard at Sonoma, saying that he was suprised earlier in the year when Jimmie dumped him, but to do it again really got to Kurt.
Kurt got Jimmie back three times for that but nobody notices that because Jimmie wasn't out in the media whining to anyone who would listen about it.
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J. - 18 November 2009 10:28 PM
Lovey-Dovey - 18 November 2009 06:20 PM
Maelochs - 18 November 2009 03:19 PM
Thing is, whether or not Jimmie Johnson wins his fourth, he has still beaten the entire field, may times. Whether or not he wins the title this year ... he has dominated for four years.
Wrecking him once won't change the fact than anyone who might wreck him, was beaten by him repeatedly for the past four seasons.
The only driver who has any business spinning Jimmie would be Denny Hamlin, to make up for the season's first Martinsville race; but he got that back by winning Martinsville in October.
Short term memory issues? Kurt Busch has been the victim of the 48 on a couple occasions this year. I remember him, after JJ wrecked him hard at Sonoma, saying that he was suprised earlier in the year when Jimmie dumped him, but to do it again really got to Kurt.
Kurt got Jimmie back three times for that but nobody notices that because Jimmie wasn't out in the media whining to anyone who would listen about it.
3 times?? Do tell.
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Posted: 19 November 2009 01:29 AM
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Keselowski.... a Kyle Busch wanna be
He think by acting cocky and being arrogant will make him be a winner...sorry pal you gotta win more than once if you are going to play mr bad a$$! You look more like Shane Hmiel out there!
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Sicklajoie - 18 November 2009 11:11 PM
J. - 18 November 2009 10:28 PM
Lovey-Dovey - 18 November 2009 06:20 PM
Maelochs - 18 November 2009 03:19 PM
Thing is, whether or not Jimmie Johnson wins his fourth, he has still beaten the entire field, may times. Whether or not he wins the title this year ... he has dominated for four years.
Wrecking him once won't change the fact than anyone who might wreck him, was beaten by him repeatedly for the past four seasons.
The only driver who has any business spinning Jimmie would be Denny Hamlin, to make up for the season's first Martinsville race; but he got that back by winning Martinsville in October.
Short term memory issues? Kurt Busch has been the victim of the 48 on a couple occasions this year. I remember him, after JJ wrecked him hard at Sonoma, saying that he was suprised earlier in the year when Jimmie dumped him, but to do it again really got to Kurt.
Kurt got Jimmie back three times for that but nobody notices that because Jimmie wasn't out in the media whining to anyone who would listen about it.
3 times?? Do tell.
I was thinking the same thing. Show me the wrecks...
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Lovey-Dovey - 19 November 2009 02:02 AM
Sicklajoie - 18 November 2009 11:11 PM
J. - 18 November 2009 10:28 PM
Lovey-Dovey - 18 November 2009 06:20 PM
Maelochs - 18 November 2009 03:19 PM
Thing is, whether or not Jimmie Johnson wins his fourth, he has still beaten the entire field, may times. Whether or not he wins the title this year ... he has dominated for four years.
Wrecking him once won't change the fact than anyone who might wreck him, was beaten by him repeatedly for the past four seasons.
The only driver who has any business spinning Jimmie would be Denny Hamlin, to make up for the season's first Martinsville race; but he got that back by winning Martinsville in October.
Short term memory issues? Kurt Busch has been the victim of the 48 on a couple occasions this year. I remember him, after JJ wrecked him hard at Sonoma, saying that he was suprised earlier in the year when Jimmie dumped him, but to do it again really got to Kurt.
Kurt got Jimmie back three times for that but nobody notices that because Jimmie wasn't out in the media whining to anyone who would listen about it.
3 times?? Do tell.
I was thinking the same thing. Show me the wrecks...
no wrecks.. you know the times.. when Kurt would race Jimmie hard.. that's her idea of Kurt getting back at him.

how dare he.
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Posted: 19 November 2009 11:11 AM
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He knocked Jimmie out of the groove and almost into the wall at Loudon and cost him several finishing positions and nobody even mentioned it because Kurt was out there saying he was "losing respect" for the way Jimmie drives. Jimmie rolled his eyes and moved on, as he always does. He got into Jimmie several more times after that. He is lucky that Jimmie is as even-keeled as he is. It sure pissed me off.
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To people comparing Keslowski to Kyle Busch you're wrong. Kyle although aggressive, especially more than his early days would talk to those drivers he wronged. Think about the Tony and Kyle situation, they got that worked out respectfully and became friends after it.
Mark Martin has always commended Kyle Busch on his "Clean" driving. Remember being a hard charger, and aggressive driver doesn't equate to wrecking people. Kyle from early on knew how to bump and nudge people to get them out of the way, not wreck them.
Brad on the other hand does not have that, when he won that Nationwide race, and wrecked Carl Edwards and several cars in then process he showed he doesn't have the same respect as Kyle for the other drivers on the track. Now I'm not saying Kyle doesn't have his flaws, he certainly does, but not at all comparable to what we've seen from Brad recently.
Now I like Brad, some of the time but he really needs to clean up his act before he gets himself or someone else killed. He has to learn the difference between the bump and run, and the bump and wreck.
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J. - 19 November 2009 11:11 AM
He knocked Jimmie out of the groove and almost into the wall at Loudon and cost him several finishing positions and nobody even mentioned it because Kurt was out there saying he was "losing respect" for the way Jimmie drives. Jimmie rolled his eyes and moved on, as he always does. He got into Jimmie several more times after that. He is lucky that Jimmie is as even-keeled as he is. It sure pissed me off.
Big difference between "almost into the wall" and junking a car. That is the difference between an aggressive driver and Brad Keselowski.