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Anybody see Nick Craw on Wind Tunnel last night? He's the FIA's guy in the U.S.A. He seemed uneasy, toeing the FIA line. He talked like he did not want to upset Bernie and the FIA. lol. Boring and he give no new information. He said there are two or three possible city's that would like to hold an F1 street race. Yeah sure. That's just the dream of Bernie E who would love to see the resorts in Las Vegas shut down the street for the weekend to host Bernie's circus. lol.
I was not impressed.
What good is the FIA anyway? They were going to ban any F1 driver who took part in the IndyCar race at the Gold Coast back in the early 90's. Worthless to American open wheel fans. Looks worthless to European racing fans too unless you enjoy seeing European races moved to the middle east.
Nick Craw on Wind Tunnel
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That was the funniest performance I've seen from a bureaucrat in years!
Indeed,Mr.Craw definitely looked like Mr.Deer in the Headlights when Dave kept bringing up great question after great question.
Nick started by bragging about what cars he could be driving and ended by looking like he needed to call Bernie to see if he could take a pee!
It was all Formula One FIA doublespeak and was supremely disappointing to see coming from someone with Mr.Craw's racing background.
There is no friend to American road racing in him.
Really,the FIA/Formula One linkeage begs the question -is it all about money now-just how much money that each organization can intimidate and extort out it's member organizations and fans?
There really seems to be a direct tie between the FIA and Formula One and the massive money it makes that never gets back to the teams,drivers and especially the tracks that field the races.
I wonder if,in this age of worldwide information technology and and people readily able at a moments notice to record and post every bit of graft and corruption that these organizations engage in,if the senior members of the FIA and Formula One think they can hide the ugliness of their combined actions from the ticket and promotional buying public?
Apparently,they will drain the horse until it dies and then they will have their answer.
I,for one, am supremely happy that the FIA ,is not a controlling organization in American auto racing.
Long May Free American Auto Racing Wave.
Indeed,Mr.Craw definitely looked like Mr.Deer in the Headlights when Dave kept bringing up great question after great question.
Nick started by bragging about what cars he could be driving and ended by looking like he needed to call Bernie to see if he could take a pee!
It was all Formula One FIA doublespeak and was supremely disappointing to see coming from someone with Mr.Craw's racing background.
There is no friend to American road racing in him.
Really,the FIA/Formula One linkeage begs the question -is it all about money now-just how much money that each organization can intimidate and extort out it's member organizations and fans?
There really seems to be a direct tie between the FIA and Formula One and the massive money it makes that never gets back to the teams,drivers and especially the tracks that field the races.
I wonder if,in this age of worldwide information technology and and people readily able at a moments notice to record and post every bit of graft and corruption that these organizations engage in,if the senior members of the FIA and Formula One think they can hide the ugliness of their combined actions from the ticket and promotional buying public?
Apparently,they will drain the horse until it dies and then they will have their answer.
I,for one, am supremely happy that the FIA ,is not a controlling organization in American auto racing.
Long May Free American Auto Racing Wave.
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That was the funniest performance I've seen from a bureaucrat in years!
Indeed,Mr.Craw definitely looked like Mr.Deer in the Headlights when Dave kept bringing up great question after great question.
Nick started by bragging about what cars he could be driving and ended by looking like he needed to call Bernie to see if he could take a pee!
It was all Formula One FIA doublespeak and was supremely disappointing to see coming from someone with Mr.Craw's racing background.
There is no friend to American road racing in him.
Really,the FIA/Formula One linkeage begs the question -is it all about money now-just how much money that each organization can intimidate and extort out it's member organizations and fans?
There really seems to be a direct tie between the FIA and Formula One and the massive money it makes that never gets back to the teams,drivers and especially the tracks that field the races.
I wonder if,in this age of worldwide information technology and and people readily able at a moments notice to record and post every bit of graft and corruption that these organizations engage in,if the senior members of the FIA and Formula One think they can hide the ugliness of their combined actions from the ticket and promotional buying public?
Apparently,they will drain the horse until it dies and then they will have their answer.
I,for one, am supremely happy that the FIA ,is not a controlling organization in American auto racing.
Long May Free American Auto Racing Wave.
FYI. All the American racing series fall under the FIA banner.
http://www.accusfia.us/member_clubs.html
Regarding Nick Craw, as an American fan of all racing I'm thrilled to finally have a high ranking member of the FIA from this side of the pond.
Nick Craw, President of the Automobile Competition Committee for the US, has been elected as the new FIA Deputy President for Sport. At its annual meeting in Paris today, the FIA General Assembly, the supreme executive body of the FIA, voted unanimously for Craw’s election.
Craw has been involved in motor sport for over 30 years. As a driver, he raced touring cars as well as single-seat formula cars and was twice IMSA National Champion. Following a two-year stint as Director of the US Peace Corps in the early 1970s, he joined the Sports Car Club of America (SCCA), the largest amateur motor sports club in the US.
Craw, who has an MBA from Harvard Business School, was President and CEO of SCCA for 17 years and was pivotal in organising Formula One races and sanctioning motor racing events throughout the US.
Through his role at the SCCA, Craw became a board member of ACCUS, which serves as the interface between the national racing bodies in the US and the FIA. He left the SCCA in 2001 to become Executive Director of US Sailing, the national governing body for sailing. But he always retained his strong links with motor sport and was elected as ACCUS President in 2005.
As well as serving as FIA Deputy President for Sport, Craw will continue to sit on the management committee for the FIA Motor Sport Safety Development Fund.
http://www.fia.com/fr-FR/mediacentre/pressreleases/fiasport/sport/Pages/NICKCRAWELECTEDFIADEPUTYPRESIDENTFORSPORT.aspx
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So you are telling me that the FIA controls NASCAR?
The FIA controls World Of Outlaws dirt track racing?
The FIA controls all the half mile dirt track races that Americans bring their run what you brung every weekend?
The FIA controls all of the motorcross racing the United States?
The FIA controls all of all the race series that are run in America?
And this quasi-European entity determines when,how and where these races will be run?
You can call it ACCUS but I call it horsexxxx.
We don't need an organization in Europe screwing with our race series.
We do that just fine all on our own.
I don't trust the FIA.
They are sucking from the money teat of every race organizers pocketbook they are controlling and they are corrupt as hell.
The less they have to do with racing in America,the better.
Screw the FIA.
The FIA controls World Of Outlaws dirt track racing?
The FIA controls all the half mile dirt track races that Americans bring their run what you brung every weekend?
The FIA controls all of the motorcross racing the United States?
The FIA controls all of all the race series that are run in America?
And this quasi-European entity determines when,how and where these races will be run?
You can call it ACCUS but I call it horsexxxx.
We don't need an organization in Europe screwing with our race series.
We do that just fine all on our own.
I don't trust the FIA.
They are sucking from the money teat of every race organizers pocketbook they are controlling and they are corrupt as hell.
The less they have to do with racing in America,the better.
Screw the FIA.
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So you are telling me that the FIA controls NASCAR? Nascar is on the list at the link I provided.
The FIA controls World Of Outlaws dirt track racing? I didn't see WoO on the list.
The FIA controls all the half mile dirt track races that Americans bring their run what you brung every weekend? Junk bucket racing at slop holes isn't on the list.
The FIA controls all of the motorcross racing the United States? The "A" in FIA stands for automobile. IIRC FIM is for bikes
The FIA controls all of all the race series that are run in America? Look at the link. Most professional level auto racing is is under the FIA through ACCUS.
And this quasi-European entity determines when,how and where these races will be run? When and where no, how and under what safety guidelines yes.
You can call it ACCUS but I call it horsexxxx.
We don't need an organization in Europe screwing with our race series.
We do that just fine all on our own.
I don't trust the FIA.
They are sucking from the money teat of every race organizers pocketbook they are controlling and they are corrupt as hell.No they're not, the FIA doesn't control the commercial rights.
The less they have to do with racing in America,the better.
Screw the FIA.Your sexual preferences are yours alone.
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The FIA mandates rules and demands payments for the certificates that say tracks have met those rules.
The FIA gets cash payments from series for the oversight they force upon those racing series.
The FIA is not some benevolent group of people soley interested in the furtherment of racing.
The FIA has become a huge,slow moving bureaucratic nightmare that answers to no on and expects an adhoc compliance to every edit they churn out.
What they have done in Formula One is akin to looking on with money glazed eyes and only acting when the newspapers made it plainly embarrassing to not act.
And when they have got off their collective rear ends ro enforce rules in races,they have done it in such a half assed manner because they have made it a practice of being amature and amazingly inconsistent at it.
The FIA had also done some really underhanded things as far as controlling where a driver can race when he's on his own time.
Frankly,there is an old saying-"Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely"
And if you can't divide the meaning of the phrase "Screw the FIA" from your own sexual deviances then I feel sorry for you.
The FIA gets cash payments from series for the oversight they force upon those racing series.
The FIA is not some benevolent group of people soley interested in the furtherment of racing.
The FIA has become a huge,slow moving bureaucratic nightmare that answers to no on and expects an adhoc compliance to every edit they churn out.
What they have done in Formula One is akin to looking on with money glazed eyes and only acting when the newspapers made it plainly embarrassing to not act.
And when they have got off their collective rear ends ro enforce rules in races,they have done it in such a half assed manner because they have made it a practice of being amature and amazingly inconsistent at it.
The FIA had also done some really underhanded things as far as controlling where a driver can race when he's on his own time.
Frankly,there is an old saying-"Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely"
And if you can't divide the meaning of the phrase "Screw the FIA" from your own sexual deviances then I feel sorry for you.
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I can Care less just bring back F1 to US in Vegas or San Jose or Long Beach or New York all Street racing F1 need to come back! USGP back in 2010 why waste money just going to canada then go back to some oversea race when you can make money in the US in 2010!
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I want to apologize to CerinoDevito for the tone of my reply to what he said.
Cerino is a poster here that I admire because he is someone that really thinks through what he says and can be depended on his replies to be substantive and truthful.
My respect for him however does not transfer to the FIA.
This idea that the mere presence of the FIA's logo on a drivers association means they control that association and the all the series that those drivers race in is manure.
The FIA does'nt control NASCAR,or Drag racing or open wheeled modifieds or any of those racing series.
This statement is the an intimidation statement meant to make the FIA look like they are EVERYWHERE.
OHHHHHHH!!!!BETTER LOOK OUT!!!!
THE FIA IS WATCHING YOU!!!!!!!!
What a truckload of sewage that is.
I grant you that the FIA has done some great things for racers safety but lately they've been way better at extending their power then doing ANYTHING ELSE.
I simply believe the FIA is now more interested in extending it's legislative power all over the world into all forms of racing more than it is in actaully helping the racers,promoters and track owners that foot the bill for those races.
I believe that the inclusion of Nick Craw into the FIA's inner circle is the first salvo in an attempt to get more power in the United States for the FIA.
This mafia like organization has recruited Mr. Craw like a 'earner' .
To justify his position,Mr.Craw will have to worm the FIA deeper into the sanctioning bodies of all forms of racing in the United States.
The translation is-more power and money going to the FIA and more costs and less local power to everyone else here in America.
I don't trust the FIA and it's been decades of watching them mangle Formula One that's given me that opinion.
Stay out of American auto racing,FIA.
We don't need you.
Cerino is a poster here that I admire because he is someone that really thinks through what he says and can be depended on his replies to be substantive and truthful.
My respect for him however does not transfer to the FIA.
This idea that the mere presence of the FIA's logo on a drivers association means they control that association and the all the series that those drivers race in is manure.
The FIA does'nt control NASCAR,or Drag racing or open wheeled modifieds or any of those racing series.
This statement is the an intimidation statement meant to make the FIA look like they are EVERYWHERE.
OHHHHHHH!!!!BETTER LOOK OUT!!!!
THE FIA IS WATCHING YOU!!!!!!!!
What a truckload of sewage that is.
I grant you that the FIA has done some great things for racers safety but lately they've been way better at extending their power then doing ANYTHING ELSE.
I simply believe the FIA is now more interested in extending it's legislative power all over the world into all forms of racing more than it is in actaully helping the racers,promoters and track owners that foot the bill for those races.
I believe that the inclusion of Nick Craw into the FIA's inner circle is the first salvo in an attempt to get more power in the United States for the FIA.
This mafia like organization has recruited Mr. Craw like a 'earner' .
To justify his position,Mr.Craw will have to worm the FIA deeper into the sanctioning bodies of all forms of racing in the United States.
The translation is-more power and money going to the FIA and more costs and less local power to everyone else here in America.
I don't trust the FIA and it's been decades of watching them mangle Formula One that's given me that opinion.
Stay out of American auto racing,FIA.
We don't need you.
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I want to apologize to CerinoDevito for the tone of my reply to what he said.
Cerino is a poster here that I admire because he is someone that really thinks through what he says and can be depended on his replies to be substantive and truthful.
My respect for him however does not transfer to the FIA.
This idea that the mere presence of the FIA's logo on a drivers association means they control that association and the all the series that those drivers race in is manure.
The FIA does'nt control NASCAR,or Drag racing or open wheeled modifieds or any of those racing series.
This statement is the an intimidation statement meant to make the FIA look like they are EVERYWHERE.
OHHHHHHH!!!!BETTER LOOK OUT!!!!
THE FIA IS WATCHING YOU!!!!!!!!
What a truckload of sewage that is.
I grant you that the FIA has done some great things for racers safety but lately they've been way better at extending their power then doing ANYTHING ELSE.
I simply believe the FIA is now more interested in extending it's legislative power all over the world into all forms of racing more than it is in actaully helping the racers,promoters and track owners that foot the bill for those races.
I believe that the inclusion of Nick Craw into the FIA's inner circle is the first salvo in an attempt to get more power in the United States for the FIA.
This mafia like organization has recruited Mr. Craw like a 'earner' .
To justify his position,Mr.Craw will have to worm the FIA deeper into the sanctioning bodies of all forms of racing in the United States.
The translation is-more power and money going to the FIA and more costs and less local power to everyone else here in America.
I don't trust the FIA and it's been decades of watching them mangle Formula One that's given me that opinion.
Stay out of American auto racing,FIA.
We don't need you.
No need to apologize. I didn't take anything personally.
An observation:
Your opinion of the FIA appears to be based on what you've seen and learned from their governance of F1 racing only. The FIA has a much larger base of governance in motorsport.
Also, they are actually a motorist advocate group first and motorsport referee second.
About FIA The Fédération Internationale de l'Automobile is the governing body for world motor sport and the federation of the world’s leading motoring organisations.
Founded in 1904, with headquarters in Paris, the FIA is a non-profit making association. It brings together 228 national motoring and sporting organisations from 132 countries on five continents. Its member clubs represent over 100 million motorists and their families.
The FIA has been dedicated to representing the rights of motoring organisations and motor car users throughout the world via campaigns and activities that defend their interests. On issues such as safety, mobility, the environment and consumer law the FIA actively promotes the interests of motorists at the United Nations, within the European Union and through other international bodies.
The FIA is also the governing body for motor sport worldwide. It administers the rules and regulations for all international four-wheel motor sport including the FIA Formula One World Championship, FIA World Rally Championship and FIA World Touring Car Championship
http://www.fia.com/en-GB/the-fia/about-fia/Pages/AboutFIA.aspx
