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MotoGp 2012 Formula Change--Production Based Engines!

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the failed experiment will finally come to an end. sayanora 800cc, and hello production-based liter bikes.

many sources: gpweek, motomatters, et al.

what say you?

good, bad, indifferent?

pros? cons?

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If this is true, Haydens career in GP just got an extension.

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Too much power with a really broad powerband is just enough.

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The word I had heard is that it would be run alongside the 800s, with the factories being able to run their bikes as they currently stand, and the 1000s getting more technology restricted rules in return for their cheap horsepower.

I think it's a good idea, providing costs can be kept reasonable, and the bikes can be roughly equivalent. Hopefully it will also let the factories get back some of the sillier restrictions imposed on them this year (no variable valve timing for crying out loud?)...

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While I understand why they would do it, I am a purist in a sense that I prefer the bike being a race-bred machine, thus prototype engines. However, if the engines are based on production engines on steroids, then I think I'll be ok with it.

I still think a pure-prototype/moto1 mix (2 series in 1) is a better idea.

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B Wags98 - 09 November 2009 06:45 PM
If this is true, Haydens career in GP just got an extension.
i can't direct link the pdf in gpweek, but nicky's response was:

"why wait. do it now. and why not 1200cc?"

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Wow, that's going to really blur the line between MotoGP and WSB. Nicky's right then, why not go 1200cc.

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Joe_B - 09 November 2009 08:21 PM
Wow, that's going to really blur the line between MotoGP and WSB. Nicky's right then, why not go 1200cc.


depends how much flexibility there will be on the engine front.

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Even with flexibility it is blurring it more in my eyes - the blurring started when they went 4 stroke.

I have to admit, there is a limit to how much power is realistic. A 1000cc prototype engine could put out ridiculous power. The 800s are at or near where the '06 990s were. How much power do they need?

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marshall banana - 09 November 2009 06:55 PM
The word I had heard is that it would be run alongside the 800s, with the factories being able to run their bikes as they currently stand, and the 1000s getting more technology restricted rules in return for their cheap horsepower.

I think it's a good idea, providing costs can be kept reasonable, and the bikes can be roughly equivalent. Hopefully it will also let the factories get back some of the sillier restrictions imposed on them this year (no variable valve timing for crying out loud?)...


Sounds like the old F1 system. Watch out. It will lead to 500cc two strokes in MotoGP.

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marshall banana - 09 November 2009 06:55 PM
The word I had heard is that it would be run alongside the 800s, with the factories being able to run their bikes as they currently stand, and the 1000s getting more technology restricted rules in return for their cheap horsepower.


I believe that was the old plan - I think the new plan is no 800s, but I'm not certain of that.

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