Townley's father is the co-owner of Zaxby's. What part of sponsoring your own car is a problem. At least Townley is not bribing/cheating his way to victory. He's merely allowing his son to participate in a sport anyone would love to be in. Menard is no different. What is wrong with that?

Nothing. Reasonable post with the exception of the third sentence. You just can't help yourself.

hendricksuks - 30 October 2009 10:21 AM

Townley's father is the co-owner of Zaxby's. What part of sponsoring your own car is a problem. At least Townley is not bribing/cheating his way to victory. He's merely allowing his son to participate in a sport anyone would love to be in. Menard is no different. What is wrong with that?

To me, it's just more money than brains (and talent)
Common sense would dictate that if someone who's had no success whatsoever in any lower division series, who would probably finish 3rd in a race with a pregnant lady, he has no business whatsoever being in one of NASCAR's big 3 series??
I have no problem with Townley's father sponsoring a car or owning a team, I think it's great. But when it's painfully obvious that your kid has no clue how to race, why move him up?? Put a real racer in the car.
I think Townley's $$$ would be much better spent having an RCR car with McCreadie or Dillon driving it.

The problem with allowing those who can afford to, but do not have the talent to, race at the upper levels is the danger involved with doing so. JWT is a hazard out there. A menace to the health and well being of everyone else out there.

Laugh all you want at his incompetence, but safety is not a joke.

Sicklajoie - 30 October 2009 10:32 AM

hendricksuks - 30 October 2009 10:21 AM

Townley's father is the co-owner of Zaxby's. What part of sponsoring your own car is a problem. At least Townley is not bribing/cheating his way to victory. He's merely allowing his son to participate in a sport anyone would love to be in. Menard is no different. What is wrong with that?

To me, it's just more money than brains (and talent)
Common sense would dictate that if someone who's had no success whatsoever in any lower division series, who would probably finish 3rd in a race with a pregnant lady, he has no business whatsoever being in one of NASCAR's big 3 series??
I have no problem with Townley's father sponsoring a car or owning a team, I think it's great. But when it's painfully obvious that your kid has no clue how to race, why move him up?? Put a real racer in the car.
I think Townley's $$$ would be much better spent having an RCR car with McCreadie or Dillon driving it.

Dillon or McCready? Not setting our sights too high are we?

johnalex1273 - 30 October 2009 11:13 AM

Sicklajoie - 30 October 2009 10:32 AM

hendricksuks - 30 October 2009 10:21 AM

Townley's father is the co-owner of Zaxby's. What part of sponsoring your own car is a problem. At least Townley is not bribing/cheating his way to victory. He's merely allowing his son to participate in a sport anyone would love to be in. Menard is no different. What is wrong with that?

To me, it's just more money than brains (and talent)
Common sense would dictate that if someone who's had no success whatsoever in any lower division series, who would probably finish 3rd in a race with a pregnant lady, he has no business whatsoever being in one of NASCAR's big 3 series??
I have no problem with Townley's father sponsoring a car or owning a team, I think it's great. But when it's painfully obvious that your kid has no clue how to race, why move him up?? Put a real racer in the car.
I think Townley's $$$ would be much better spent having an RCR car with McCreadie or Dillon driving it.

Dillon or McCready? Not setting our sights too high are we?

They've got better qualifications than Townley.
Plus, yes, I think Tim McCreadie is a very good racer, his results speeak for themselves.
If it was my choice, I'd put Bobby Santos III in the car.

Sicklajoie - 30 October 2009 11:15 AM

johnalex1273 - 30 October 2009 11:13 AM

Sicklajoie - 30 October 2009 10:32 AM

hendricksuks - 30 October 2009 10:21 AM

Townley's father is the co-owner of Zaxby's. What part of sponsoring your own car is a problem. At least Townley is not bribing/cheating his way to victory. He's merely allowing his son to participate in a sport anyone would love to be in. Menard is no different. What is wrong with that?

To me, it's just more money than brains (and talent)
Common sense would dictate that if someone who's had no success whatsoever in any lower division series, who would probably finish 3rd in a race with a pregnant lady, he has no business whatsoever being in one of NASCAR's big 3 series??
I have no problem with Townley's father sponsoring a car or owning a team, I think it's great. But when it's painfully obvious that your kid has no clue how to race, why move him up?? Put a real racer in the car.
I think Townley's $$$ would be much better spent having an RCR car with McCreadie or Dillon driving it.

Dillon or McCready? Not setting our sights too high are we?

They've got better qualifications than Townley.
Plus, yes, I think Tim McCreadie is a very good racer, his results speeak for themselves.
If it was my choice, I'd put Bobby Santos III in the car.

Agree on that but if we are talking race car driver over money and family I'd put Jason Sarvis in the car.

Drivers better than John Wes Townley:

Benny Gordon. Jason Sarvis. Clay Rogers. Justin Lofton. Reed Sorenson. Danny O'Quinn. Erik Darnell. Landon Cassill. Trevor Bayne. Eric Holmes. Jason Bowles. Joey Clanton. Mike Duncan. Mike David. Ron Hornaday. Johnny Benson. Brian Scott. Patrick Sheltra. Bobby Santos. Bobby East. Danica Patrick. Milka Duno. Michael Waltrip after a few beers. My Mom. My Grandma. The blind lady down the street...

Lovey-Dovey - 30 October 2009 02:45 AM

^ Back then NASCAR wasn't as lucrative a career as a regular job. In Elder's case it was farming.

Remember what you said: "Used to be talent got you the ride, because the sport was about winning purses, then the owners found sponsorship to be more profitable than race winnings, now good rides are available to the highest bidder."

Everything you have stated to back this up has been the opposite. That the only way to compete in Cup, regardless of talent or accomplishments, was to pay for it out of your own pocket. There were no "rides".

gary243 - 30 October 2009 11:42 AM

Lovey-Dovey - 30 October 2009 02:45 AM

^ Back then NASCAR wasn't as lucrative a career as a regular job. In Elder's case it was farming.

Remember what you said: "Used to be talent got you the ride, because the sport was about winning purses, then the owners found sponsorship to be more profitable than race winnings, now good rides are available to the highest bidder."

Everything you have stated to back this up has been the opposite. That the only way to compete in Cup, regardless of talent or accomplishments, was to pay for it out of your own pocket. There were no "rides".

Still missing my point. It was affordable enough that you didn't need one of the multi-million dollar multicar teams to win, even less to be competitive. I knew a group of working class guys who put a team together in a two car garage, and got quite a few top tens with Sonny Easley, a local Saugus Speedway racer who got that ride by winning the big races at the local tracks. Joe Ruttman didn't get his ride by being either well spoken or pretty. Neither did Trickle or Schrader or Allison. They all earned their way by winning races.