I taped the rolex race and didn't have any problems.

What exactly are you trying to do? record it to your DVR for later playback or make a hard copy & burn to a DVD??? Recording to a DVR shouldn't be an issue. Burning to a DVD will be an issue as programmers & cable companies are rolling out new content protection measures. It's reality so get used to it with SPEED & other nets in the days ahead.....

I was able to record the race since it was broadcast on Fox. But when the races go back to SPEED I won't be able to watch them anymore. I always recorded them on my DVD recorder and then later on Sunday went back and watched them. I don't know what SPEED is afraid of but they seriously need to reverse this decision.

Again & for clarity, you are recording the race then trying to "burn" the show on to a DVD in order to watch later. Is that correct? Usually the purpose of a DVR is to record things & watch it later. Burning to a DVD means you are trying to permanently archive it for later viewing or doing something else wtih it..... What am I missing?

Goalpost - 22 June 2009 04:55 PM

Again & for clarity, you are recording the race then trying to "burn" the show on to a DVD in order to watch later. Is that correct? Usually the purpose of a DVR is to record things & watch it later. Burning to a DVD means you are trying to permanently archive it for later viewing or doing something else wtih it..... What am I missing?

I am recording it on a blank DVD to watch later and to keep.

does it really matter what they are doing with the recording??

Goalpost - 22 June 2009 04:55 PM

Again & for clarity, you are recording the race then trying to "burn" the show on to a DVD in order to watch later. Is that correct? Usually the purpose of a DVR is to record things & watch it later. Burning to a DVD means you are trying to permanently archive it for later viewing or doing something else wtih it..... What am I missing?

Here's what you are missing goalpost. Most DVRs are normally supplied by your cable/satellite company for a monthly fee that adds up to a considerable cost over the years, and they have limited storage as you can time-shift so much and then find you haven't watched the first recordings and your DVR HD is full so you have to delete things you haven't watched yet.

DVD recorder (and the diminishing world of VHS recorders) use is not just for making permanent recordings, but also for time-shifting. DVD recorders can write to DVDRW media (reusable DVDs)and also read the discs, enabling the exact same time-shifting function that DVR units provide, and at a much lower cost for the DVD recorder itself and the DVDRW media included. A decent DVD recorder is less than 100 bucks and can last for many years, and 25 DVDRW discs can be bought for ten bucks. The pack of discs recorded at 2hr speed (excellent quality) gives you 50 hours of time-shifting for a cost of 40 cents a disc, and each disc can be rerecorded at least one hundred times. The cost is also much less than using a VHS recorder too, especially as the VHS technology disappears.

A family with a husband, wife and a kid or two then has a problem with each person wanting to time-shift their own programming, so the DVR ends up being full all the time. Every person I know with a DVR has it full all the time. With a DVD recorder each family member can have their own pack of DVDRW discs and time-shift to their heart's content all they want without hogging all the DVR disk space, and at a very minimal cost. Also, with the DVDRW disc you can watch what you time-shifted anywhere, and not be tethered to your house, such as travelling on business.

Additionally, if SPEED was determined to really copy-protect their content, they would copy-protect all sources. As I explained earlier in this thread, my non-HD Time Warner box allows SPEED to be recorded, while my HD TW box doesn't. SPEED is not broadcast in HD period on Time Warner, it's the same signal, picture and quality from each box. Those of you who have both SPEED and SPEED HD channels on your system (which again my TW does not) can test to see if the SHD channel copy-protects while the the normal SPEED channel does not.

You might research the famous BETAMAX case that went to the US Supreme Court in the early '80s where time-shifting by viewers was upheld for private home use, which is the issue here.

Just because you might criminally misuse your time-shifted recordings does not mean the rest of us do or ever intend to do. It's also possible that the technology of using a DVD recorder and having to manually program your recording is beyond your technical ability to do, let alone understand. The DVR setup by cable/satellite companies is intended to maximize their profit at your expense. In this age of financial downsizing, throwing away money needlessly might be fine for you, but not for the rest of us.

I'm just wondering if this is actually a rights issue with F1. seems like if all other speed programs can be recorded fine, then maybe it has something to do with F1's media rights. they do like to control things....

also just to make sure, cause i haven't seen a straight yes or no answer on this, is it recording to your DVR first then to a DVD or is it recording straight to a DVD, or is it not even recording to a DVR?

racerwill18 - 23 June 2009 06:31 AM

I'm just wondering if this is actually a rights issue with F1. seems like if all other speed programs can be recorded fine, then maybe it has something to do with F1's media rights. they do like to control things....

also just to make sure, cause i haven't seen a straight yes or no answer on this, is it recording to your DVR first then to a DVD or is it recording straight to a DVD, or is it not even recording to a DVR?

I personally don't own a DVR. All I have is a DVD recorder. I think if it were an issue with F1 then I shouldn't have been allowed to record the race on Fox. I'm thinking it's an issue with SPEEDTV but then again I'm very technologically illiterate.

I am recording the replay of the F1 race right now on my DVR and it's working perfectly.