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Anyone know how many layoffs normally happen this time of year? Seems like it would be normal for some to take place and that some of these are being sensationalized.
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StuckonKyle - 19 November 2008 08:39 AM
Anyone know how many layoffs normally happen this time of year? Seems like it would be normal for some to take place and that some of these are being sensationalized.
cupscene.com has a table of the current layoffs, estimated total at 277.
http://www.cupscene.com/
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Including 50 let go by ISC. Hmmmm
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StuckonKyle - 19 November 2008 08:39 AM
Anyone know how many layoffs normally happen this time of year? Seems like it would be normal for some to take place and that some of these are being sensationalized.
cupscene.com has a table of the current layoffs, estimated total at 277.
http://www.cupscene.com/
Hay Ganassi and DEI are leading somthing this year
Good point /question Stuck with numbers like "Joe Gibbs Racing Less than 10", "Hendrick Motorsports Less than 10" and low numbers from all but DEI Ganassi this could be more smoke than fire. ISC with 50 seems high but that out of how many?
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StuckonKyle - 19 November 2008 08:39 AM
Anyone know how many layoffs normally happen this time of year? Seems like it would be normal for some to take place and that some of these are being sensationalized.
cupscene.com has a table of the current layoffs, estimated total at 277.
http://www.cupscene.com/
Hay Ganassi and DEI are leading somthing this year
Good point /question Stuck with numbers like "Joe Gibbs Racing Less than 10", "Hendrick Motorsports Less than 10" and low numbers from all but DEI Ganassi this could be more smoke than fire. ISC with 50 seems high but that out of how many?
There are traditionally personnel changes at this time of year, but I think what makes this a little different is the fact that not many teams (save perhaps SHR) are hirig. Shops shuffle around people fairly regularly, and moreso on the off-season, but this seems to be shuffling people out vs. around.
The number that Cup Scene lists for Roush is dfferent than what Scene Daily has (30). I still believe that the worst is yet to come - you can only run a team for so long with partial or no sponsorship - look how fast the 41 folded (with practically no warning). Ganassi lost approximately 70 people as a result of folding that team, so it's not hard to imagine the repercussions of several teams shutting down in the next few months.
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with new computors, they can lay off several office staff, LOL
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Wheel_Man - 19 November 2008 02:02 PM
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StuckonKyle - 19 November 2008 08:39 AM
Anyone know how many layoffs normally happen this time of year? Seems like it would be normal for some to take place and that some of these are being sensationalized.
cupscene.com has a table of the current layoffs, estimated total at 277.
http://www.cupscene.com/
Hay Ganassi and DEI are leading somthing this year
Good point /question Stuck with numbers like "Joe Gibbs Racing Less than 10", "Hendrick Motorsports Less than 10" and low numbers from all but DEI Ganassi this could be more smoke than fire. ISC with 50 seems high but that out of how many?
Not his fault the economy sucks! I'm sure he didn't want to lay people off.
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Claire has a blog out:
http://claireblang.wordpress.com/2008/11/19/tough-times-for-nascar-crew-members/
"Today, I heard awful stories of team guys who work at one particular race shop near an area where the employment applications are taken. One crew member said that all day while he is working on the race car at the shop he watches the line of people come in the door looking for work in staggering numbers, one by one, all day long, he sees a continuous line of employment seeking friends passing by looking for a job.
I am hearing that the US Army team guys will, for the most part, be moving as an entire team over to the Stewart Haas Race Team. The Army team guys are happy they will have work but are upset that they are displacing others and sad for their fellow crew members on that team who they will be replacing.
I have been told stories of crew members who got calls from crew members crying on the phone – asking for help finding jobs. Here’s another side - some in the garage say that crew members who made good money, way more than they could make anywhere else with the same experience, bought big houses and lived above their means and now have issues with big homes that they can’t afford.
Crew members told me this weekend that they think if folks do not get jobs soon – many of those released will likely go back home to other parts of the country as many of them relocated to the Charlotte area for the opportunity in racing. One crew member told me that he was told he would not have a job as he got off the airplane in Homestead. He got off the airplane and the crew chief called him over as soon as he landed. Others were told on Monday when they got to their race shop.. It’s not just about them – these are guys are tight with the guys they have roomed with and lived with and worked on a team with for years."
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I want those of you who are sympathetic to these few layoffs, the one's who poked fun and evened flamed me for my stand in the GM/Stewart deal, to reasonably explain how this is any different than the thousands that were loosing their jobs at the same time Tony was being given a race team. Bet that never crosses the ARMY team's mind.
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SOK - you're like a GM hater. You would be more credible if your comments had applied to the big 3. The last time I checked, all three of them took corporate jets to DC to beg for money.
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