I'm trying to make sense of this split. I've looked up USSB's buisness plan, and their top class, U.S. Superbike, is going to mirror World Superbike regulations. And then I looked at DMG's plan, and their top class, Factory Superbike, is going to mirror World Superbike regulations. Then I felt a desire to sniff glue because my brain cells needed a mercy killing after reading that.

If both series are using World Superbike as a template, what's the #### problem?

Because DMG is owned by Napcar, and they think dumbed down tech and circus's will make them richer

But they're both using World Superbike rules. You can't call it dumbed down if it's the same thing. A hot dog is not a dumbed down frankfurter!

DMG offered the manufacturers the 'Factory Superbike' class but they turned their offer down for whatever reasons. Some issues I saw with DMG's offer were:
*if it was factory bikes only there'd only be around 8 or 9 bikes on the grid
*still no separation of sanctioning body & promoter
*Mel Harris doesn't like Roger

When the manufacturers didn't go for it, DMG decided that they were going to go with their 'Daytona SBK' class and 'American SBK' which would be pretty much the same as the current Superstock class.

As MM said, when the DMG plan was finally announced the SBK rules, and the true superbike class, were all tossed aside.

The factories, apparently even Yamaha, don't want to race in the dmg restricted horsepower, weight adjusted, manipulated 600 class. Honda, Suzuki and Kawasaki are worried that dmg will eventually put the same rules in the 1000 class, especially since Edmondson has proven he can’t be trusted when he makes a promise. Just ask the track promoters, who are still waiting for the race sponsors he promised at the RRIC meeting.

My guess is that for the factories it wasn't just about the Superbike class. It was an all or nothing deal. DMG was going to give up 9 or 10 bikes for Superbike but the factories would still be shelling out big bucks for the other classes and have little say into what happens.

Odie, you need to back it down a tad. My sources tell me that EVERY track promoter has given DMG/Edmondson/AMA/whatever their commitment. This is not the sort of thing they do lightly or in the face of broken promises. This is the sort of thing you do because you believe him.

fastnloose - 15 September 2008 01:22 PM

Odie, you need to back it down a tad. My sources tell me that EVERY track promoter has given DMG/Edmondson/AMA/whatever their commitment. This is not the sort of thing they do lightly or in the face of broken promises. This is the sort of thing you do because you believe him.

If the tracks had committed the 2009 schedule would have been released. They have no event sponsors and a week has past since Edmondson said the schedule would be released. How come the pro dmg posts always make the best arguements against dmg?

fastnloose - 15 September 2008 01:22 PM

Odie, you need to back it down a tad. My sources tell me that EVERY track promoter has given DMG/Edmondson/AMA/whatever their commitment. This is not the sort of thing they do lightly or in the face of broken promises. This is the sort of thing you do because you believe him.

You'd have to explain that post in English, but there are some promoters with definite reservations. DMG is alienating the long-term, die-hard fans - you know, the ones that show up - with the promise of future masses, but the promoters need to pay their bills and can't do that with the millions they'll get 15 years down the road (if DMG is right, and not everyone thinks they are).

No reason to back down, Odie, go for the jugular.

DMG does not want factory bikes they want factory customer teams just like nascar. Motorcycle racing has never been about level playing fields for every entrant the big 4 plus ducati will not play that game . The AMA made areally big mistake giving rights to DMG Dorna would have at least mirrored WSBK rules and classes U.S. racers could have cross polinated with the euros and Brits where racing has been balanced and fierce. The only thing that DMG has going for them right now is that they have the ISC <readNASCAR> tracks who are owned by the same entity as DMG. Motorcycle racin in north america will become aside show for nascar or grand am weekends.