I thought Dave was someone we could all count on to give open-wheel a fair shake on his show. Well, after 3/4 of the show on NASCAR and 1/4 of the show on Mickey Thompson's son (yawn), it was kind of hard to remember that the Indy Cars raced at Sonoma on Sunday.

Just a thought, Dave: we're all adults, not 11 year-old kids. We don't watch your show for such stimulating intellectual conversations as, "Between Kyle Busch and Carl Edwards, who's the good guy and who's the bad guy?" Oh brother! If that's the depth of your auto racing coverage, Dave, I'm sure there's a seat for you at one of the countless NASCAR hype shows on Speed.

Meanwhile, there was an actual race on Sunday. With actual story lines. With actual news to report. It would have been nice for you to acknowledge it (beyond the 10 second blurb that Helio won).

CSP6 - 25 August 2008 06:47 AM

I thought Dave was someone we could all count on to give open-wheel a fair shake on his show. Well, after 3/4 of the show on NASCAR and 1/4 of the show on Mickey Thompson's son (yawn), it was kind of hard to remember that the Indy Cars raced at Sonoma on Sunday.

Just a thought, Dave: we're all adults, not 11 year-old kids. We don't watch your show for such stimulating intellectual conversations as, "Between Kyle Busch and Carl Edwards, who's the good guy and who's the bad guy?" Oh brother! If that's the depth of your auto racing coverage, Dave, I'm sure there's a seat for you at one of the countless NASCAR hype shows on Speed.

Meanwhile, there was an actual race on Sunday. With actual story lines. With actual news to report. It would have been nice for you to acknowledge it (beyond the 10 second blurb that Helio won).

You've highlighted the reason I haven't watched Dave's show in over 2 years.

It sounds like I haven't missed a thing yet.

Same here, used to watch it all the time now I rarely do. Way too Nascarized for my taste, shame on Dave and co.. Did he even spend a minute on the fabulous race at Mosport ? I bet not....

Give old Dave a break. It's still about the only show on the tube that tries to cover the entire racing gamut.

Tell me how many million people watched the NASCAR race on Saturday night. Next tell me how many thousand people watched the IndyCar race on Sunday. Then tell me how these numbers are somehow disproportionate to what the audience wants.

I watch the IRL, F1 and NASCAR and enjoy them all but lets review that IRL race:

1. Less fans in the seats than you would see at a Texas high school football game.

2. Less fans watched on TV than an NHL hockey game.

3. Cars not racing but coasting around saving fuel. Even the drivers in the race complained about that.

4. Danica did not confront anyone.

I would think less said about this race the better!

I'm an OW fan but it was a horrible race. I would love to see open wheel return to the status it use to have but The IRL is dying a slow death.

Indy car needs more races at great track that are no longer on the 2009 schedule. Surfer's Paradice, Laguna Seca, Cleveland Airport, Road America, Elkhart Lake and even Sebring need to be added to that schedule. The real strength of open wheel cars are road courses where their downforce hold the road so well. And if Indy cars drove more and better road track, the sports car fans and the F-1 fans could have more races to enjoy.

Also we need more races on better ovals including Califonia Pocono and Michigan .. great 2 mile tracks and except for Milwaukee, stay away from short tracks like Richmond. They also need to go back to flat tracks like Nazerth. They should drive every week like NASCAR does if they are in the US and have at least 25 races a season. They could drive some races with Cup races instead of the Nationwide series. Nationwide cars could run at different tracks so that it would keep Cup drivers away and let them have a real series of their own. Maybe some Indycar drivers like Marco, Helio or Danica could drive a part time car in NASCAR if they were at the same track as the cup races drove that weekend. That would sell both NASCAR fans to Indy car. Also, Jeff Gordon, Juan Pablo Montoya, Tony Stewart and even Dale Jr could get a part time ride in Indy for that weekend that would help INDY CAR

Cy Ross - 28 August 2008 08:56 PM

Indy car needs more races at great track that are no longer on the 2009 schedule. Surfer's Paradice, Laguna Seca, Cleveland Airport, Road America, Elkhart Lake and even Sebring need to be added to that schedule. The real strength of open wheel cars are road courses where their downforce hold the road so well. And if Indy cars drove more and better road track, the sports car fans and the F-1 fans could have more races to enjoy.

Also we need more races on better ovals including Califonia Pocono and Michigan .. great 2 mile tracks and except for Milwaukee, stay away from short tracks like Richmond. They also need to go back to flat tracks like Nazerth. They should drive every week like NASCAR does if they are in the US and have at least 25 races a season. They could drive some races with Cup races instead of the Nationwide series. Nationwide cars could run at different tracks so that it would keep Cup drivers away and let them have a real series of their own. Maybe some Indycar drivers like Marco, Helio or Danica could drive a part time car in NASCAR if they were at the same track as the cup races drove that weekend. That would sell both NASCAR fans to Indy car. Also, Jeff Gordon, Juan Pablo Montoya, Tony Stewart and even Dale Jr could get a part time ride in Indy for that weekend that would help INDY CAR

Forget NASCAR fans. They didn't like CART in it's heyday. They hate NASCAR on road courses. Can't see the whole track. No passin'.

I agree about the tracks. Richmond, Chicago and Homestead are jokes. So is Sonoma and Detroit. But, the Dallara is not a good car at turning right. The "package" needs review, but with no money infusion and dropping down to Versus I don't see much changing until 2011. Can Indycar hold out that long? Nevermind, there is only one race that matters.

Give Indy Car some time, obviously with the unification things aren't going to be perfect from the get go. They can't throw out a new chassis and engine package immediately, R&D;is needed to get it right. Sure the Dallara isn't anything spectacular to look at.. but would you rather them rush through it and have the IRL version of the COT? I think IRL can make a good comeback over the next couple years. The detroit race wasnt' really that bad.. it was more of a strategy race rather than a head to head race.

I think IRL can pull through with this, with much of the negativity with nascar lately they HAVE to capitalize on the opportunity. AND have more ALMS/IRL weekends imo!

This post started over a week ago ... last night he gave plenty of time to discuss the Helio move over order