highlander179 - 26 July 2008 08:11 PM

r60man - 26 July 2008 10:28 AM

I am going to say it because someone has to, if you are 17 and have no racing experience other than stoppies and burn-outs, you will have your butt handed to you on a platter. Motorcross is serious syuff, probably the most physically demanding of all of the motorsports. At 190 I am hoping you are REALLY tall, like 7 feet, otherwise you had better put yourself on a serious traing schedule, now. The stamina needed to last through qualifiers and Motos can not be under estimated.

Equipment is secondary concern. You will not start in the pros. Start small take your lumps and learn.

On the chance that you really can make it, I would recommend that you spend some time learning to speak and write English in a way that people can understand. Sponsors will not want to be represented by a person that can not communicate their product well to others.

Best of luck to you!

HOLY CARP!!! WTF kinda response it that? Do you even know what you're talking about? First off, on the stamina thing, unless his first race is in the pro ranks(which it wont be), he's not going to have to worry about Qualifying, AMA Amateur racing doesn't work that way. Your entry fee gets you two Motos per class.... which are only 4 or 5 laps depending on the length of the track. My 4y/o son could do 4 laps, so this guy should have no problem. Although at 190, his bike is too small to be competitive, it's big enough to have fun on and good enough to start on.

On making it and his grammar, F Off! You're not the grammar police, especially if you don't call the sport by the right name. It's MOTOCROSS not MotoRcross. He's already to old "to make it" anyway. Starting at his age he'll never go pro... ever. The guy can't even find a local track, and you're worried about sponsors. :rolleyes:

Motorcross was a spelling error, not grammer, but thats beside the point. We have an entire generation that are incapable of speaking or writing intelligable sentences. Blame it on texting or IMing,. whatever, but if no one tells them it is wrong, it will never improve. My spelling isn't perfect, and neither is my grammer, but I would be willing to bet that 99% of the people who read it can understand it. Read his second post, its actually painful. From a 17 year old? Come on, defending it will not make things better. I can not help feeling this way I am a high school teacher. Sorry if it bothers you, but "F Off!"

Your 4 year old could most likely do 4 laps, but a 190 pound 17 year old might not be able to. Do the math.

It's getting late at night and I am too tired to look at this too closely, but without trying I see seven spelling, punctuation and sentence structure errors in your post. Teacher teach thyself.

r60man - 27 July 2008 10:02 PM

Motorcross was a spelling error, not grammer, but thats beside the point. We have an entire generation that are incapable of speaking or writing intelligable sentences. Blame it on texting or IMing,. whatever, but if no one tells them it is wrong, it will never improve. My spelling isn't perfect, and neither is my grammer, but I would be willing to bet that 99% of the people who read it can understand it. Read his second post, its actually painful. From a 17 year old? Come on, defending it will not make things better. I can not help feeling this way I am a high school teacher. Sorry if it bothers you, but "F Off!"

Your 4 year old could most likely do 4 laps, but a 190 pound 17 year old might not be able to. Do the math.

Wow. You teach high school, you're a bike guy, and you mis-spell motocross with an "R"??? Dude, that is a fatal error. The dirt industry has been making fun of that mistake for 40 years now.

Can you blame that one on texting or IMing?

BTW - grammar

thx for the great tips ChrisOn600. I've been lookin into the Yam MX 125 myself. The version with the "good forks" that won't snap when ya land! Lourdes wants one of those "Yam pit bike scooters" for herself and a cruiser for us to travel with. I told her we'll need to build another garage just for the fleet of bikes! I guess I'm startin to become a "Joe Camel Yamaha Man" for life [now that I finally own one]. Love the feel! Good fit for me.

Part of the problem with kids today might be some of the teachers, lol - most of the few I know can't spell! 'Grammer' is a classic!

garyb425 - 28 July 2008 08:23 AM

Part of the problem with kids today might be some of the teachers, lol - most of the few I know can't spell! 'Grammer' is a classic!

Really! I just finished up my masters in Ed Psy at University of Northern Colorado. Had lots of "teachers" in my classes. Whole new breed from back in the day! Now an expert in Assessment [test writing]. ACT/SAT/GRE and most others really don't "measure" what they are supposed too. Most teachers these days can't even design a valid test nor align curriculum to State Standards and No Child Left Behind Act standards. I've changed my view to advocating a "National" curriculum where everyone gets the same classes at the same grade. Wouldn't have heard me sayin that last yr. It is way worse than anyone thinks. Parents thinking they know is often making it worse as they influence school boards and teachers. Then we have the creepy people "teaching". What is the school system coming too?

Another issue is holding Kids accountable for their own course work. Many if not most aren't even trying. A lot of research is going into how to "motivate" kids to "learn". This is a result of removing the "paddle" from the school system. They haven't come up with anything to replace it yet. LOL. Gotta admit, it was extremely effective!

garyb425 - 28 July 2008 08:23 AM

Part of the problem with kids today might be some of the teachers, lol - most of the few I know can't spell! 'Grammer' is a classic!

I used to question pulling your kids out of school and home schooling them. I'm starting to re-think that...

joe_b - 28 July 2008 09:11 AM

garyb425 - 28 July 2008 08:23 AM

Part of the problem with kids today might be some of the teachers, lol - most of the few I know can't spell! 'Grammer' is a classic!

I used to question pulling your kids out of school and home schooling them. I'm starting to re-think that...

That is fairly strongly supported at UNCO. Many professors have done just that. Removed their kids from the Greely school system. The research evidence "longterm" is pretty compelling. Home schooling is more effective. Were not just talking about the Christian "Right" version here either. If you go to the No Child Left Behind Site and many others, all the tools you'll ever need to teach your kid at home are readily available. Likewise I have been forced to rethink my position. My biggest concern was "social development" without accessing the social network at school. Evidence seems to indicate that the kids develop properly and in some demographics maybe even better. So... times are changing. Still pondering a position. We are in transition period and it is hard to sort.

KingKenny - 28 July 2008 09:27 AM

joe_b - 28 July 2008 09:11 AM

garyb425 - 28 July 2008 08:23 AM

Part of the problem with kids today might be some of the teachers, lol - most of the few I know can't spell! 'Grammer' is a classic!

I used to question pulling your kids out of school and home schooling them. I'm starting to re-think that...

That is fairly strongly supported at UNCO. Many professors have done just that. Removed their kids from the Greely school system. The research evidence "longterm" is pretty compelling. Home schooling is more effective. Were not just talking about the Christian "Right" version here either. If you go to the No Child Left Behind Site and many others, all the tools you'll ever need to teach your kid at home are readily available. Likewise I have been forced to rethink my position. My biggest concern was "social development" without accessing the social network at school. Evidence seems to indicate that the kids develop properly and in some demographics maybe even better. So... times are changing. Still pondering a position. We are in transition period and it is hard to sort.

I'd love to see that evidence that home schooling is more effective.

Good to know there is another topic you are an expert on. BTW, assessment may include writing tests, but it certainly isn't the only component of assessing a student. There are many valuable assessment tools that are not written tests, especially in the lower grades when the students can't read or write yet.

Most of the home schoold kids I've seen are intelligent, and usually lacking in social skills. There needs to be a mix.