I think I answered the questions ... except for the issue of the dead rat and all the "junk" on SPEED ... message board bullies are a fun bunch ...
In seriousness, I do appreciate you coming out to face the horde. I own a business so I definitely respect the need to make money and that not all the things I like make money for SPEED. I'm just bummed at some of the places that SPEED is going in search of those profits. I literally don't even look to see what's on SPEED during the weekdays anymore -- whereas it used to be the first channel I turned on no matter what day or hour, and if something even half decent was on I didn't explore the competing alternatives.
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i've noticed this whole thing has gotten off topic but to go back, I agree why this show wrecked? I'm in the tow industry and i found this show boring and absurd. 3 or 4 guys on 1 scene and not one thought let the air out of the tires. No, rather let's light this on fire. In my company they would've been fired. also the boss wouldn't have just shown up. over the phone he would've told them what to do. Not to mention he wouldn't have hired such ####### in the first place. also i think that if they had 75 drivers then why is this "joey" guy doing all these tows as well as run a shop. I found it to be "made for TV" I really didn't like how the owner went off on his competition stating he would be cutthroat if he had to. I live in NY and that is not the way we do it here. I can understand your clients being poached or even unlicensed, no name companies showing up at accident scenes. But to have no respect for the other tow companies is just wrong. I do understand a tow company or speed network because it could be educational and interesting. I know that on other forums that cater to tow companies they have talked about the show. But having the type of show they have is unappealing. I do not intend to ever watch this show again. I personally do love reality tv but i don't think i can watch one that i know is fake. it's too frustrating knowing someone is doing the job all wrong.
I seem to recall SpeedVision actually showing music videos back in the day, it was one of the few times pre-YouTube that I could see the Van Halen Dreams video.
Earneson... Hmmm? I smell some modified Delphi Method going on here. Doesn't appear to be working though.
Oh, on the green speed thing... at the rate Speed has failed in it's other "lifestyle shows", I am willing, for a considerable fee, to tell you how to make it work instead of the C-D grade show Speed will likely come up with.
i've noticed this whole thing has gotten off topic but to go back, I agree why this show wrecked? I'm in the tow industry and i found this show boring and absurd. 3 or 4 guys on 1 scene and not one thought let the air out of the tires. No, rather let's light this on fire. In my company they would've been fired. also the boss wouldn't have just shown up. over the phone he would've told them what to do. Not to mention he wouldn't have hired such ####### in the first place. also i think that if they had 75 drivers then why is this "joey" guy doing all these tows as well as run a shop. I found it to be "made for TV" I really didn't like how the owner went off on his competition stating he would be cutthroat if he had to. I live in NY and that is not the way we do it here. I can understand your clients being poached or even unlicensed, no name companies showing up at accident scenes. But to have no respect for the other tow companies is just wrong. I do understand a tow company or speed network because it could be educational and interesting. I know that on other forums that cater to tow companies they have talked about the show. But having the type of show they have is unappealing. I do not intend to ever watch this show again. I personally do love reality tv but i don't think i can watch one that i know is fake. it's too frustrating knowing someone is doing the job all wrong.
Letting the air out wouldn't have done a thing. The truck was still too tall to finish the trip through the bridge. Then again you weren't there.
i've noticed this whole thing has gotten off topic but to go back, I agree why this show wrecked? I'm in the tow industry and i found this show boring and absurd. 3 or 4 guys on 1 scene and not one thought let the air out of the tires. No, rather let's light this on fire. In my company they would've been fired. also the boss wouldn't have just shown up. over the phone he would've told them what to do. Not to mention he wouldn't have hired such ####### in the first place. also i think that if they had 75 drivers then why is this "joey" guy doing all these tows as well as run a shop. I found it to be "made for TV" I really didn't like how the owner went off on his competition stating he would be cutthroat if he had to. I live in NY and that is not the way we do it here. I can understand your clients being poached or even unlicensed, no name companies showing up at accident scenes. But to have no respect for the other tow companies is just wrong. I do understand a tow company or speed network because it could be educational and interesting. I know that on other forums that cater to tow companies they have talked about the show. But having the type of show they have is unappealing. I do not intend to ever watch this show again. I personally do love reality tv but i don't think i can watch one that i know is fake. it's too frustrating knowing someone is doing the job all wrong.
Letting the air out wouldn't have done a thing. The truck was still too tall to finish the trip through the bridge. Then again you weren't there.
Letting the air out of the tires WOULD have dropped the rear
by about 5 inches, hooking a chain on the crossmember directly
to the rear of the fifth wheel plate (one on each side, bringing
them under the plate for balance and support) and raising the
landing gear to lower the front of the trailer, (lowering the air-ride
if equipped, many 53 ft. trailers have the air-ride suspension)
and backing off the slack (brake) adjusters (with no air to
the brake system, the wheels are locked), the trailer could
be easily pulled back out from under that bridge (common sense
tells you NOT to pull it forward through the underpass).
BTW, for 12 years I built and repaired OTR trailers, so I have
some knowledge about them.
Anyway, back to the show... it was BORING!!!!
Wrecked ? Unbelievably stupid. Staggeringly inane. Speedtv has completely gone off their rocker. What are they thinking. Tour de steaming pile. What a drive off a cliff the last few years have been for race fans. Absolutely vile drek and less and less racing from a bunch of corporate dummies. When I think of all the drivers who have given their lives for the sport,it makes me sick to think of the depths that speedlesstv has sunk to. Disgusting. And to think they couldn't sink any lower after 3 years without WRC.
I have to agree with the posters, about speeds programs, it has been going down hill for a while, if they want new shows, why not come out with a clone of Thursday night thunder, go to tracks that run in the middle of the week, Show us some live racing of any kind,I would like to see the midgets and Silver Crown cars agian ( if they are still racing since nascar talked them into changing their bodys)Heck, I don't care if it's dirt or pavement, street stocks, late models what ever, And while I see some speed people are reading this, what is up with Mikey Waltrip, does he own stock in this Co, or does he have something on somebody? He can ruin a race telecast faster than, a funny car used to do the 1/4 mile.
Craigmbo8 -- Never said the "programs were just right" ... simply said we'd keep trying new things ... some will work, some won't ... you guys will decide ... I'm just trying to give you honest information ... your "GreenSpeed" is already in the works ... SPEED is in talks with multiple groups about this line of programming
Randomname -- SPEED audience breaks into several audiences, some with crossover, some that don't -- some are NASCAR fans, non-NASCAR race fans, auto enthusiast, adrenaline junkies and DIYers ... you are right about some small groups being valuable (which is why we have had F1 since the network began ... despite no US event, F1 is seeing some growth this year in younger audiences as well) ... one thing we look at is which of these groups has the most growth potential ...Done for the day ... have a good weekend everyone
Speed considers F1 a small group?... hopefully your speaking about the US market.
Is Speed, not concerned with the world market? Surely some of the marketplace for Speed is world wide....
I do know the majority of viewers of Speed is from Nascar, judging from the amount of time that Speed programs it and the influence of the France family in the orginal purchase of Speedvision, and even though owned by Fox, stills has an influence.
If you consider the world market, not just the US one, F1 would be the largest group and Nascar would be the little one, would it not, based on fanbase/viewing Worldwide, on all media.
If interests in F1 is regarded as a low level interest group, how come this forum contains more postings on F1 than Nascar? Though, as you stated the Nielson ratings show otherwise and is the measuring stick for ratings and attracting commerical investments for Speed.
Though I don't mean to sound one sided here, as I like lots of different types of racing, on an equal basis,
I would watch a Nascar with equal interests as I would a F1 race or a GP bike race.
Though I do get the feeling that Speed does not feel the need to take away any fan's interest in Nascar and distract him into the possiblity of being attracted to another type of racing. Which is the main reason programing of Grand Am or World Challenge or other forms of road racing is almost always shown on time delay, (not always, but most of the time) sometimes a month later and not replayed only in rare circumstances.
Grand Am is the exception, but it is also a France family product.
Speed would rather show, a hometown circle track race with driver's no one's heard of, before it will show an Indy lights or Formula Atlantic race. Pretty much true of anything outside of an oval. And somehow justify it as more popular by selecting a "prime" time slot.
If and a big if at that, Speed wishes to double it's market place instead of just gaining the smaller "left out" pieces of the Nascar puzzle, and gain an audience in the hundreds of millions, the rest of world is out there, waiting for something other than programing that is geared at one mentality.... one turn (counted as two)...a straight away ..another turn (+2 more).. and another straight away to start over...
as the only type of "real" racing there is... thrown in with some tow trucks, some body work upgrades and learing how to upgrade your truck..
...might need to get replaced with shows like BBC's Top Gear, Australian Supercars, DTM Racing, Grand prix boats, Bonneville, Plane racing, etc.
Craigmbo8 -- Never said the "programs were just right" ... simply said we'd keep trying new things ... some will work, some won't ... you guys will decide ... I'm just trying to give you honest information ... your "GreenSpeed" is already in the works ... SPEED is in talks with multiple groups about this line of programming
Randomname -- SPEED audience breaks into several audiences, some with crossover, some that don't -- some are NASCAR fans, non-NASCAR race fans, auto enthusiast, adrenaline junkies and DIYers ... you are right about some small groups being valuable (which is why we have had F1 since the network began ... despite no US event, F1 is seeing some growth this year in younger audiences as well) ... one thing we look at is which of these groups has the most growth potential ...Done for the day ... have a good weekend everyone
Speed considers F1 a small group?... hopefully your speaking about the US market.
Is Speed, not concerned with the world market? Surely some of the marketplace for Speed is world wide....
I do know the majority of viewers of Speed is from Nascar, judging from the amount of time that Speed programs it and the influence of the France family in the orginal purchase of Speedvision, and even though owned by Fox, stills has an influence.
Why should a TV exectutive or PR person care what the world market is, when they have clear metrics showing what the US viewing audience is. Of course that's what he meant, the US market.
Some have reported that WRC's world audience excedes F1 (not sure I'd believe that myself), but when it came to actual viewing numbers, even at the most primo timeslots it was it, the viewership was 10-20 thousand. That's what get execs attention.
SPEED is trying show every donut in the case except one. A new donut that is growing in popularity, viewership, ticket sales & variety. But no you'll only get the 2 hrs alloted to show how delicious it is...then that's enough. So instead of creating a new program showing it's wonderful qualities they waste valuable time with new crap like "Wrecked". Everytime i see that promotion i just shake my head in wonderment.
I think I answered the questions ... except for the issue of the dead rat and all the "junk" on SPEED ... message board bullies are a fun bunch ...
In seriousness, I do appreciate you coming out to face the horde. I own a business so I definitely respect the need to make money and that not all the things I like make money for SPEED. I'm just bummed at some of the places that SPEED is going in search of those profits. I literally don't even look to see what's on SPEED during the weekdays anymore -- whereas it used to be the first channel I turned on no matter what day or hour, and if something even half decent was on I didn't explore the competing alternatives.
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Craigmbo8 -- Never said the "programs were just right" ... simply said we'd keep trying new things ... some will work, some won't ... you guys will decide ... I'm just trying to give you honest information ... your "GreenSpeed" is already in the works ... SPEED is in talks with multiple groups about this line of programming
Randomname -- SPEED audience breaks into several audiences, some with crossover, some that don't -- some are NASCAR fans, non-NASCAR race fans, auto enthusiast, adrenaline junkies and DIYers ... you are right about some small groups being valuable (which is why we have had F1 since the network began ... despite no US event, F1 is seeing some growth this year in younger audiences as well) ... one thing we look at is which of these groups has the most growth potential ...Done for the day ... have a good weekend everyone
Speed considers F1 a small group?... hopefully your speaking about the US market.
Is Speed, not concerned with the world market? Surely some of the marketplace for Speed is world wide....
I do know the majority of viewers of Speed is from Nascar, judging from the amount of time that Speed programs it and the influence of the France family in the orginal purchase of Speedvision, and even though owned by Fox, stills has an influence.
If you consider the world market, not just the US one, F1 would be the largest group and Nascar would be the little one, would it not, based on fanbase/viewing Worldwide, on all media.
If interests in F1 is regarded as a low level interest group, how come this forum contains more postings on F1 than Nascar? Though, as you stated the Nielson ratings show otherwise and is the measuring stick for ratings and attracting commerical investments for Speed.
Though I don't mean to sound one sided here, as I like lots of different types of racing, on an equal basis,
I would watch a Nascar with equal interests as I would a F1 race or a GP bike race.
Though I do get the feeling that Speed does not feel the need to take away any fan's interest in Nascar and distract him into the possiblity of being attracted to another type of racing. Which is the main reason programing of Grand Am or World Challenge or other forms of road racing is almost always shown on time delay, (not always, but most of the time) sometimes a month later and not replayed only in rare circumstances.
Grand Am is the exception, but it is also a France family product.
Speed would rather show, a hometown circle track race with driver's no one's heard of, before it will show an Indy lights or Formula Atlantic race. Pretty much true of anything outside of an oval. And somehow justify it as more popular by selecting a "prime" time slot.
If and a big if at that, Speed wishes to double it's market place instead of just gaining the smaller "left out" pieces of the Nascar puzzle, and gain an audience in the hundreds of millions, the rest of world is out there, waiting for something other than programing that is geared at one mentality.... one turn (counted as two)...a straight away ..another turn (+2 more).. and another straight away to start over...
as the only type of "real" racing there is... thrown in with some tow trucks, some body work upgrades and learing how to upgrade your truck..
...might need to get replaced with shows like BBC's Top Gear, Australian Supercars, DTM Racing, Grand prix boats, Bonneville, Plane racing, etc.
I understand your frustration, But American cable companies DON'T have a worldwide view (perhaps because the world doesn't want us). F1 is just like soccer to the US market, it has a following, but it's a small one in terms of TV demographics. Like you, I wish we could program a network, specifically this one, with racing, racing, racing and then some more racing, but since it's privately owned, it has to make a profit. That means that a potential advertiser has to be shown RELIABLE INFORMATION that the specific demographic they are looking for is viewing the product you're selling. I never liked Pinks, and thought it was stupid, but lots of young people apparently did like it. Pinks all out is easier for me to watch because it's real racing at least. I understand it sells advertising and that keeps F1 on the air. Where I used to turn on the set and immediately go to Speed, I go to HGTV or some other things first. I don't watch as much Speed because I only want to see racing and a FEW racing related shows. I have yet to find a network that has exactly all the things "I LIKE".
I'll give you this for an example, maybe it will help. I owned a hobby-shop for 12 years. I loved "MOST" of the stuff that was in the store, and I carried a bunch of different products. I also carried some stuff I knew little or nothing about for people I didn't even really want as customers, I carried those items because day in day out, they paid the rent and allowed me to carry some stuff that while it didn't sell real fast, I LIKED IT. Even when you own the joint, you have to do what's smart and pays the rent. It isn't what you want to do, it's what you have to do to be successful. AA JMHO
In seriousness, I do appreciate you coming out to face the horde. I own a business so I definitely respect the need to make money and that not all the things I like make money for SPEED. I'm just bummed at some of the places that SPEED is going in search of those profits. I literally don't even look to see what's on SPEED during the weekdays anymore -- whereas it used to be the first channel I turned on no matter what day or hour, and if something even half decent was on I didn't explore the competing alternatives.
