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Joe Gibbs Cheating 18 everywhere

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No............I did not make this up.

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Matcat needs to chill. Theres more than one way to go fast. Anything youve thought of has already been done. Its the stuff you havent thought of that is being used now. I hope Kyle wins 14+ cup races this season.

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fan999 - 19 July 2008 02:59 PM
Matcat needs to chill. Theres more than one way to go fast. Anything youve thought of has already been done. Its the stuff you havent thought of that is being used now. I hope Kyle wins 14+ cup races this season.


I hope that Kyle wins all of the rest of the races this season. And I still want to know where you came up with this information about the traction control device that you purport he is using. If it is valid, please let us know how you know this. Do you not understand what I am saying about unverified claims?

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Well, thanks for clearing that up.

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Do you all realize how stupid you all sound. Heck, why race? Just draw a name from a hat and give them the trophy! Or better yet, just give Dale Jr. the trophy and make everyone happy.

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mattcat - 21 July 2008 11:04 AM
fan999 - 19 July 2008 02:59 PM
Matcat needs to chill. Theres more than one way to go fast. Anything youve thought of has already been done. Its the stuff you havent thought of that is being used now. I hope Kyle wins 14+ cup races this season.


I hope that Kyle wins all of the rest of the races this season. And I still want to know where you came up with this information about the traction control device that you purport he is using. If it is valid, please let us know how you know this. Do you not understand what I am saying about unverified claims?
I think you have set the new record for missing the point by the widest margin possible. I don't think I can try to explain it in any way that the other posters haven't already tried, so please, just reread what they posted.

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CHEATING.... rolleyes ....you don't think JGR would do that do you...besides they have to go through a inspection before and after the race and if there was anything cheated up with it then Nascar would catch it...wouldn't they.... smile....has it ever occured to yall that the boy can just drive the wheel's of a race car...he has in everything he has driven so far...just loves to win....aint that the name of the game...I'm not a Kyle Busch fan by any means but I have to hand it to the boy...he loves to drive and he loves to win....can't fault him for that...and like others have already said...IT AINT CHEATING UNLESS YOU GET CAUGHT... cool smirk

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SuperFan - 17 July 2008 11:11 AM
the advantage that the 18 has could be some type of stability control system. When JPM hit Kyle during the caution and turned him... as soon as the car went sideways the right front tire looked up. It was the only tire that locked up and you could see smoke come off it, very odd. I thought it was strange and watched it over and over again, in slow motion and frame by frame. The right front locks up and the right rear continues to roll, hes talented but to hit the breaks that quickly is a bit unrealistic regardless of the talent. It could be a brake bias thing but still to react that quickly? To this day seems awful strange IMO. I was really surprised no one else caught this. After reading this post I thought about it again. Im not sure what post's are sarcasm and which ones are not. But I thought I would put this idea out there.


I dont know if they are cheating or not - but your argument has no validity - think about it - JPM hit him and the car spun to the right - transferring weight from the right front thus allowing for lock up more easily - typically there will be more brake biased toward the front - makeing it even more subject to lock up at slow speeds and no weight on it - not to mention they were under caution and not at race speed and yes - a qualtiy drivers reflexes are that fast.

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mx848 - 14 July 2008 10:04 AM
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No one complained last year when Chevy won 26 of the races, were they cheating?


Strange how that works, isn't it? HMS dominated with Chevy but now that Toyota is having similar results...they must be cheating! LOL


Also strange how NASCAR put on the worst race in the history of the sport and look who was in the winner's cicle.... WHAT A JOKE!!!!

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struns - 16 July 2008 07:44 PM
mattcat - 16 July 2008 12:28 PM
fan999 - 15 July 2008 12:23 AM
It's traction control. The device is not ridgid like you might think. It's sewed into the driver suit and connected via a trick 5 point harness(belts).


Yes, that must be it! I knew he was doing something, it all makes sense now! Traction control...who'd have thought?

Who'd have thought because he is the loosest car on the racetrack 85% of the time. The guy is sideways through most of the corner. Traction control? Please.

If you are going to make outlandish claims to being in the know about things like this, please support said claims with facts or evidence.


I think that was sarcasmI hope so
But I think it is the nitro bottle that's made to look like a roll cage!!


Hmm, I'll chalk the traction up there with black helicopters.