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Posted: 05 July 2008 09:24 AM   [ Ignore ]  
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Nationwide COT on hold: Yahoo! Sports has learned that NASCAR officials have notified team owners in the Nationwide Series that they will delay the introduction of the next generation Nationwide Series race car by one year. According to NASCAR spokesperson Ramsey Poston, the reason for the change is because testing and development is still needed before the car is approved for competition. The underlying reason for the decision however, is that the economic impact of having to build new cars at this time would be a hardship for all of the independent teams of the Nationwide Series. The decision was, in part, based on NASCAR officials meeting individually with smaller team owners to gauge their reaction. An official announcement is expected in two weeks.(Yahoo Sports)(7-4-2008)


guess NASCAR has some sense after all.
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Posted: 05 July 2008 09:35 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]  
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And next year the financial situation is going to be better? NASCAR never thinks things out.
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Posted: 05 July 2008 09:39 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]  
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Well, its about time they made a wise decision. Its a good move that would of killed many teams if they went ahead with it. They should postpone it for awhile.
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Posted: 05 July 2008 12:09 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]  
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In the current state of the economy, good move. Better move would be an indefinate delay though.
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Posted: 05 July 2008 12:16 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]  
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Good decision. Delaying it a year or two will also give them a chance to learn more about changes necessary for the Cup COT and to see if they will apply to the Nationwide version.
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Posted: 05 July 2008 12:36 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]  
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NASCAR did the right thing. (for once) Wait, make it better than the Cup version. I hope when it does come out they use some of the things on the Nationwide COT and put them on the Cup COT.
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Posted: 05 July 2008 01:30 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]  
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I think after a whole year of the COT in the Cup series there will be used cars that will be from the Cup series that the NW series could use at a much cheaper price. Used COT cars from cup would make the financial hit less painful. Of course the Cup based NW teams will build new cars and make the gap even greater between the NW only teams.
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Posted: 05 July 2008 01:35 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]  
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I think after a whole year of the COT in the Cup series there will be used cars that will be from the Cup series that the NW series could use at a much cheaper price. Used COT cars from cup would make the financial hit less painful. Of course the Cup based NW teams will build new cars and make the gap even greater between the NW only teams.


excuse my ignorance, but don't the Nationwide cars have a shorter wheel base and aren't they overall smaller cars? Couldn't that be why they can't use a cup car in Nationwide?

I probably don't know what I'm talking about, so I thought I'd throw that question out there to you so you could tell me all about it.
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Posted: 05 July 2008 02:03 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]  
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I think after a whole year of the COT in the Cup series there will be used cars that will be from the Cup series that the NW series could use at a much cheaper price. Used COT cars from cup would make the financial hit less painful. Of course the Cup based NW teams will build new cars and make the gap even greater between the NW only teams.


excuse my ignorance, but don't the Nationwide cars have a shorter wheel base and aren't they overall smaller cars? Couldn't that be why they can't use a cup car in Nationwide?

I probably don't know what I'm talking about, so I thought I'd throw that question out there to you so you could tell me all about it.


Yah, I don't know chit either... but as things stand today, I do believe that the cars are not the same.
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Posted: 05 July 2008 02:24 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]  
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I think after a whole year of the COT in the Cup series there will be used cars that will be from the Cup series that the NW series could use at a much cheaper price. Used COT cars from cup would make the financial hit less painful. Of course the Cup based NW teams will build new cars and make the gap even greater between the NW only teams.


excuse my ignorance, but don't the Nationwide cars have a shorter wheel base and aren't they overall smaller cars? Couldn't that be why they can't use a cup car in Nationwide?

I probably don't know what I'm talking about, so I thought I'd throw that question out there to you so you could tell me all about it.


You are correct. The chassis are not interchangeable. 110" wheel base vs 105". But being apparently being ignorant myself, I could be wrong. wink
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Posted: 05 July 2008 02:30 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]  
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I think after a whole year of the COT in the Cup series there will be used cars that will be from the Cup series that the NW series could use at a much cheaper price. Used COT cars from cup would make the financial hit less painful. Of course the Cup based NW teams will build new cars and make the gap even greater between the NW only teams.


excuse my ignorance, but don't the Nationwide cars have a shorter wheel base and aren't they overall smaller cars? Couldn't that be why they can't use a cup car in Nationwide?

I probably don't know what I'm talking about, so I thought I'd throw that question out there to you so you could tell me all about it.


You are correct. The chassis are not interchangeable. 110" wheel base vs 105". But being apparently being ignorant myself, I could be wrong. wink


I believe the Nationwide CoT is going to have a wheelbase of 110".

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“We are working very hard on the COT,” Balash explains. “We’ll utilize the NASCAR 110-inch wheelbase certified chassis, and it will be interchangeable between the Sprint Cup and Nationwide garages. [But] we’re going to do something unique with the bodies to give the Series its own look as opposed to the past.”


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Posted: 05 July 2008 05:21 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]  
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I think after a whole year of the COT in the Cup series there will be used cars that will be from the Cup series that the NW series could use at a much cheaper price. Used COT cars from cup would make the financial hit less painful. Of course the Cup based NW teams will build new cars and make the gap even greater between the NW only teams.


excuse my ignorance, but don't the Nationwide cars have a shorter wheel base and aren't they overall smaller cars? Couldn't that be why they can't use a cup car in Nationwide?

I probably don't know what I'm talking about, so I thought I'd throw that question out there to you so you could tell me all about it.


The wheelbase is different, but I believe the chassis itself will be the same, just placement of the axles will be different. If I remember right, before the COT, Cup chassis were sold or transferred to both Busch and ARCA teams where they could be modified and used. The difference in wheelbase will make a difference in the handling of the 2 cars, as it did with the older cars. It will be interesting to see how many of the future changes and modifications to either car will transfer to the other.
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Posted: 05 July 2008 08:40 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]  
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Ok back when NASCAR was runnong the old car in both the busch series and the cup series. Busch cars were 105" wheelbase and cup cars were 110" wheelbase. After cup cars got old they usually went to the west and east series and arca. I don't think it is even possible to take an old cup car and turn it into a 105" car nationwide car but seeing as the whole chassis is designed baised off one wheel base or the other they never did it. Now the nationwide cars are still 105" with the old car and cup is 110" with the COT. When or if the nationwide cars go to the COT they will have the same wheel base as the cup cars so all they would have to do is put a nationwide engine, suspention, and body on a COT chassis and go racing. Or at least that is the idea.
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I think after a whole year of the COT in the Cup series there will be used cars that will be from the Cup series that the NW series could use at a much cheaper price. Used COT cars from cup would make the financial hit less painful. Of course the Cup based NW teams will build new cars and make the gap even greater between the NW only teams.


excuse my ignorance, but don't the Nationwide cars have a shorter wheel base and aren't they overall smaller cars? Couldn't that be why they can't use a cup car in Nationwide?

I probably don't know what I'm talking about, so I thought I'd throw that question out there to you so you could tell me all about it.[/quote







It's ok your wrong again, they are going to the same wheel base length when they switch. You lose again. Nice try though.
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I think after a whole year of the COT in the Cup series there will be used cars that will be from the Cup series that the NW series could use at a much cheaper price. Used COT cars from cup would make the financial hit less painful. Of course the Cup based NW teams will build new cars and make the gap even greater between the NW only teams.


excuse my ignorance, but don't the Nationwide cars have a shorter wheel base and aren't they overall smaller cars? Couldn't that be why they can't use a cup car in Nationwide?

I probably don't know what I'm talking about, so I thought I'd throw that question out there to you so you could tell me all about it.[/quote





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I think after a whole year of the COT in the Cup series there will be used cars that will be from the Cup series that the NW series could use at a much cheaper price. Used COT cars from cup would make the financial hit less painful. Of course the Cup based NW teams will build new cars and make the gap even greater between the NW only teams.


excuse my ignorance, but don't the Nationwide cars have a shorter wheel base and aren't they overall smaller cars? Couldn't that be why they can't use a cup car in Nationwide?

I probably don't know what I'm talking about, so I thought I'd throw that question out there to you so you could tell me all about it.


The wheelbase is different, but I believe the chassis itself will be the same, just placement of the axles will be different. If I remember right, before the COT, Cup chassis were sold or transferred to both Busch and ARCA teams where they could be modified and used. The difference in wheelbase will make a difference in the handling of the 2 cars, as it did with the older cars. It will be interesting to see how many of the future changes and modifications to either car will transfer to the other.


Oops, got that wrong. I was thinking of the old car in regards to the wheelbase. I'll blame it on the photo Amp2003 posted of the commentator. I'm still not thinking straight!
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