Interesting, that it has finally reached the mainstream media that everything isnt just fine and dandy in Nascar land and that is all I have ever been trying to get across.The show will be about the economy and how its effecting the league and their are some pretty serious quotes from Doug Yates about next year.I believe the show will be ESPN Between the Lines and will air Sunday morning.

thanx for the tip... I'd suspect Doug would have some very insightful comments... (he's a pretty bright guy... with an education, even)...LOL..rf

I don't think anyone thinks things "are fine and dandy" in NASCAR. But at the same time, we've been hearing the gloom and doom prognostications for years. I'm not saying that there won't be any serious problems but I'll believe it when I see it.

And I'll take comments from Yates with a grain of salt. He's a bright guy but considering everything he's been through over the past couple of years his outlook is probably a bit more tainted than that of other owners.

I don't think Nascar is in trouble, not making as much money as they have in the past, yeah could be. It is some of the owners that are in trouble with the scarce sponsorship dollars and the cost of fielding competive teams I can see some long time owners going under. What I think we'll see in the not so distant future is franchising of the teams. If you look at it now what do the owners have that is tangible, their equipment and shops and that is about all they have. Loose a sponsor or two and good bye. I'm not a proponent of franchising by any meens but if I were an ownwer you bet I would be pushing for that.

AMP2003 - 27 June 2008 10:11 AM

And I'll take comments from Yates with a grain of salt. He's a bright guy but considering everything he's been through over the past couple of years his outlook is probably a bit more tainted than that of other owners.

with the exception of what robert said as he left the sport, "it ain't about car guys any longer."

no truer words have been spoken in quite awhile.

The interesting part is if things were really ok with NASCAR then despite dwindling attendance more people are hanging out around the house and ratings should be going up.

On a positive side I won't buy any race tickets until I get to the track and see what can be had on the cheap.

Did any one watch the show ? I was working so I could not.

EarlofSpeed - 29 June 2008 05:55 PM

Did any one watch the show ? I was working so I could not.

Here's the segment

http://sports.espn.go.com/broadband/video/videopage?videoId=3466028

I just watched the recording. Much ado about nothing. The stuff they talked about is a simplified version of what any semi-involved NASCAR fan has known for years.

AMP2003 - 27 June 2008 10:11 AM

I don't think anyone thinks things "are fine and dandy" in NASCAR. But at the same time, we've been hearing the gloom and doom prognostications for years. I'm not saying that there won't be any serious problems but I'll believe it when I see it.

And I'll take comments from Yates with a grain of salt. He's a bright guy but considering everything he's been through over the past couple of years his outlook is probably a bit more tainted than that of other owners.

Exactly. The country is in recession. You can’t expect Nascar to be immune from the effects of a recession. It’s going too effect ticket sales, teams, sponsors, and sport as whole. Fans can't afford to spend couple grand go to Nascar race like they could 3-4 years ago. When economy begins to turn around things will improve. As of right now Nascar is handling the recession pretty well. Considering costs forced upon on the teams and fans.

The situation with Yates Racing has nothing to do with economy. It has every thing to do with the way Doug runs his race team. His previous sponsors of Mars, UPS, and Havoline didn’t leave the sport, they went to other teams. Which is clear indication that Yates Racing needs to put more effort into there marketing/sales department.

I personally am very unsettled by Asset/Capital Management Companies investing or taking over NASCAR teams. These are the same people who are running amok on Wall Street.