theres a different angle of the danica/chuck buckman pit collision on youtube-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpTSbsQksb8

this angle clearly shows chuck walk away from the pit wall into the middle of the pits directly into danica path. its clear from this that danica woudnt have seen him as he did indeed suddenly step out infront of her.

i didnt think it was her fault before but this new angle has convinced me even more that the collision wasnot danica fault.

I think the other angle showed he was obscured by the crew member working on the other car. In any case it was an unfortunate accident.

cant see much from that angle either imho

Actually, this makes the case against the "It's Danica's fault" argument even stronger.

The video that was shown on ESPN only shows the collision, but not what was going on before hand. The first video makes it seem like Chuck was just standing there. In the video RaceFan posted, you can clearly see him walking, not standing, in the pit box and it clearly shows him walking from the wall out to pit road, meaning that if Danica saw him, it was less than a second before she hit him.

What fascinates me is the people around him. I saw maybe one person rush to his aid right away, the rest just stood there and watched. I took psychology so I know about the whole deal about a person is less likely to help if others are around, but come on people.

The guy just wasn't paying attention it's as simple as that. He should have been walking on the other side of the wall. Too many people in the pits with out safety gear is a major lapse by the IRL.

thunderstix33 - 17 May 2008 01:43 PM

What fascinates me is the people around him. I saw maybe one person rush to his aid right away, the rest just stood there and watched. I took psychology so I know about the whole deal about a person is less likely to help if others are around, but come on people.

They were probably stunned.

TeamRMP - 17 May 2008 02:33 PM

The guy just wasn't paying attention it's as simple as that. He should have been walking on the other side of the wall. Too many people in the pits with out safety gear is a major lapse by the IRL.

dp wasn't paying attention either..she cut in way to early..do agree with the lack of safety gear.

OT--A long, long time ago, I was at The Milwaukee Mile for a USAC stock car race. They were going for the start of the race. There was this man with a clipboard on the track at the entrance to the pits. He was on the track by about 5 or 6 feet. All the cars are coming to the start-finish line for the start of the race. This man, on the track, has his back to the traffic. From one of the last few cars in the field comes this car spinning toward the inner wall. The car hits this man, he must have flew about 15 feet high in the air. While in the air, he made what looked like a cartwheel. Luckily, he only suffered two broken legs. No. 1 rule in racing when on the track, "Never turn your back on the cars on the track."

NoviVespa3 - 17 May 2008 02:46 PM

OT--A long, long time ago, I was at The Milwaukee Mile for a USAC stock car race. They were going for the start of the race. There was this man with a clipboard on the track at the entrance to the pits. He was on the track by about 5 or 6 feet. All the cars are coming to the start-finish line for the start of the race. This man, on the track, has his back to the traffic. From one of the last few cars in the field comes this car spinning toward the inner wall. The car hits this man, he must have flew about 15 feet high in the air. While in the air, he made what looked like a cartwheel. Luckily, he only suffered two broken legs. No. 1 rule in racing when on the track, "Never turn your back on the cars on the track."

I'm thinking that no matter if all of us can agree on whose fault it was that this latest accident happened, I think we call all agree with the Number 1 rule.

LEDZEP - 17 May 2008 02:45 PM

TeamRMP - 17 May 2008 02:33 PM

The guy just wasn't paying attention it's as simple as that. He should have been walking on the other side of the wall. Too many people in the pits with out safety gear is a major lapse by the IRL.

..she cut in way to early...

I'll remember to count the number of times this season that a driver, when entering or exiting his or her pit stall, passes through someone else's pit stall. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that the number is going to be somewhere in the hundreds. How many races are left? I'm sure I can count the number of times right now.

thunderstix33 - 17 May 2008 02:59 PM

LEDZEP - 17 May 2008 02:45 PM

TeamRMP - 17 May 2008 02:33 PM

The guy just wasn't paying attention it's as simple as that. He should have been walking on the other side of the wall. Too many people in the pits with out safety gear is a major lapse by the IRL.

..she cut in way to early...

I'll remember to count the number of times this season that a driver, when entering or exiting his or her pit stall, passes through someone else's pit stall. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that the number is going to be somewhere in the hundreds. How many races are left? I'm sure I can count the number of times right now.

...and why'll you're at it,do it during qualifying..happy counting.