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Posted: 18 May 2008 08:34 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 31 ]  
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Expect NASCAR to tell Sprint Cup teams that they've gone far enough - and in some cases, too far - with making crooked cars. Sprint Cup Series director John Darby said Saturday that teams will get a memo, likely this week, telling them to "clean up" the way they're turning their wheels to help the cars handle better. "They need some of that, but there are some of them that have pushed it," Darby said. The rear wheels on some of the cars were turned to the point that some were having difficulty being pushed onto the scales used in inspection. Oh and i didn't see this posted anywhere else, so if it was already posted then i'm sorry.
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Posted: 18 May 2008 08:35 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 32 ]  
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RobsanX - 17 May 2008 11:10 PM
It does add a degree of excitement since every time a car comes out of turn it looks like it's spinning... It was pretty hilarious to see Hornish's car look like it was headed towards the infield when it was going down the back straight...


it's got to be disconcerting for the driver following Hornish or some of the other really overskewed cars ... how do you tell if he's spinning out or not when following him?
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Posted: 18 May 2008 08:36 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 33 ]  
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There's a link posted on page 2 of the skew thread
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Posted: 18 May 2008 08:40 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 34 ]  
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I think the dog tracking looks kind of cool. Honestly, I thought the racing last week and last night was pretty decent. Kasey ran away with it at the end, but there was some good side by side racing overall. I do think several teams last night were purely there as a test session for the 600 though. If NASCAR wants to keep the All Star race in Charlotte, prior to the 600, I think they should utilize infield road course, possibly keeping the All Star race about good hard racing not testing-but that's a whole other topic...

Since John Darby and Robin Pemberton will not listen to the teams to make the cars drive better, the teams are forced work with in those two brain-trust's CoT box, and this is a product of that. I appreciate the teams finding a little something in an extremely tight set of rules laid down by JD and RP. Although reading the link posted earlier in the thread, sounds like they're going to take this evolution in chassis set up away.

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Why doesn't Darby and Pemberton, just add another 500 lbs of weight on the right side-place it up real high like on the halo bar, summon Goodyear to build the hardest compound tire ever developed in the history of tires(fill the tires with foam too so that those pesky crew chiefs can't adjust tire pressures), hand out the shocks and springs to all the teams, mandate teams run the NASCAR approved corner weights and suspension geometries, add more Dow foam to the cars(because they will wreck more) and limit the RPMs to 8000-another great way to supposedly save teams money, which may be a good thing because the teams will be investing heavily rebuilding their cars, but at least all the cars will be ill handling and crashing in a pack, which in turn will provide some great highlights and attention.

Since quality of racing isn't on their agenda, they really ought make the cars wreck more. Have at least two 'big ones' per race, and the wrecks need to be spark showering, fire erupting, part shedding, maybe even some car flipping, jaw dropping dramatic ways to gain more fans. Michael McDowell's wreck was great, it just needed more fire. Think of how fantastic it'd be if there were 15 cars doing the McDowell at once, twice a race, EVERY race!!!!

NASCAR should step up to the plate soon beacuse Danica is likely to win more races, between scantily clad photo shoots, in the newly merged Tony George league.
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Posted: 18 May 2008 09:03 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 35 ]  
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red376 - 18 May 2008 08:40 AM

Since John Darby and Robin Pemberton will not listen to the teams to make the cars drive better, the teams are forced work with in those two brain-trust's CoT box, and this is a product of that. I appreciate the teams finding a little something in an extremely tight set of rules laid down by JD and RP. Although reading the link posted earlier in the thread, sounds like they're going to take this evolution in chassis set up away.


I agree. I'm not wild at all about the crab cars, particularly since NASCAR was promising that they'd not let their new COT cars get skewed like that, but the box they've built for them is so small the teams have to have something. I'm all for whatever makes these cars handle better, but I think it's ridiculous that this is what they've had to resort to.
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Posted: 18 May 2008 10:14 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 36 ]  
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Wait a minute. Just a few months ago, this board was lit up with complaints about how the teams couldn't work on the cars, and how bad the cars raced. Everyone said NASCAR should do something to fix it! Now, the tames "worked" the cars, and they race better, but NASCAR should do something because they look funny?
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Posted: 18 May 2008 03:03 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 37 ]  
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The crabbing has to stop, please. It is giving me a headache to see them on the straights.

Last week at Darlington the 99 looked like Linda Blair in the Exorcist crab walking.

The 77 car last night looked like a spooked dog running scared with its tail tucked between its legs when they run nearly sideways. Hilarious and disturbing.
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Posted: 18 May 2008 03:24 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 38 ]  
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there is absolutely nothing wrong with the cars being in yaw the way they are. i could care less what the cars look like going around the track. its an advantage someone found i like it

why are we worried about people laughing at nascar's top series because of the way the cars looks...sometimes i wonder about this board

the complaint was that nascar should ban the cars being in yaw because there ugly...there is no justification to an argument like that

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Posted: 18 May 2008 04:21 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 39 ]  
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WingsOTE - 18 May 2008 03:03 PM
The crabbing has to stop, please. It is giving me a headache to see them on the straights.

Last week at Darlington the 99 looked like Linda Blair in the Exorcist crab walking.

The 77 car last night looked like a spooked dog running scared with its tail tucked between its legs when they run nearly sideways. Hilarious and disturbing.


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http://youtube.com/watch?v=Zd0hi6zw6to
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Posted: 18 May 2008 07:48 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 40 ]  
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This setup will decrease tire loading and increase adhesion without the large camber and toe adjustments required by the 2007 COT to turn. That should help the tires perform within Goodyear specs. and be safer. Making it a plus for the folks that liked the COT safety and those who think a race is a contest of speed. A Win-Win-Win-Win-Lose situation. (Goodyear-speed-safety-teams-looks).

I guess one could say that the setup has been used for so long it’s as old as dirt (racing). But its appearance after Darlinton suggests to me that recent driver complaints “might” have convinced officials to allow it on a trial basis. (With input from Goodyear and the teams of course. LOL ). Hope it stays around.

Also I thought I heard that ALL cars were running this setup. Not to the degree of #77 but all cars had a variation in place. Seems like some folks didn't notice.
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Posted: 18 May 2008 08:00 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 41 ]  
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Call me "Old School", but I remember when they used to "fix" cars that handled like that.
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Posted: 18 May 2008 10:05 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 42 ]  
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This thread is another example that people will complain about everything. Whats next: hey the cars are moving tooo fast, Nascar needs to ban goin fast!....



They did ban them from going fast. Remember the Restrictor plate? Hell, if they can 220mph in Indycar, they should in NASCAR, too. They fly up into the fence all the time
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Posted: 18 May 2008 10:23 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 43 ]  
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rodan70 - 18 May 2008 10:05 PM
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This thread is another example that people will complain about everything. Whats next: hey the cars are moving tooo fast, Nascar needs to ban goin fast!....



They did ban them from going fast. Remember the Restrictor plate? Hell, if they can 220mph in Indycar, they should in NASCAR, too. They fly up into the fence all the time


Except an IndyCar is only 1600lbs, made of components that are designed to break up during a crash, and carry ethanol fuel.

Stock cars weight 3000+lbs, made of sheet metal and carry petroleum fuel.

When IndyCar hit the fence, the fence does more damage than it takes. When a stocks car hits a fence, the fence is lucky to still be standing.
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Posted: 19 May 2008 07:17 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 44 ]  
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rodan70 - 18 May 2008 10:05 PM
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This thread is another example that people will complain about everything. Whats next: hey the cars are moving tooo fast, Nascar needs to ban goin fast!....



They did ban them from going fast. Remember the Restrictor plate? Hell, if they can 220mph in Indycar, they should in NASCAR, too. They fly up into the fence all the time
I wonder if you get hit by a toyota prius at 45 miles per hour would it hurt more or less than getting hit by a semitruck at 45 miles per hour. You add more weight the force is being implied also rodan said they are designed to break apart munch more than stock cars are. Yes they do go in the fence all the time but i am sure Kenny Brack and Ryan Briscoe would tell you it isn't a good thing.
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Posted: 19 May 2008 08:07 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 45 ]  
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PainterDude - 18 May 2008 08:00 PM
Call me "Old School", but I remember when they used to "fix" cars that handled like that.


Some insurance companies would "total" cars that were that bent
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