Gandretti - 14 February 2008 04:08 PM

I feel bad for Bachelart (sp?) He was told that everything was OK and he bought a new car.  KK and TG deserve each other.  Throw in Penske, Ganassi, and Mickey and you’ve got a bunch of honorable people.  I guess ruthlessness is required to make vast amounts of money. 

I’m disgusted at the lot of them.

Hey, as little as I respect or like KK, there are 3 other people running CCWS too. If things were bad or influx, they could have contacted the teams as well.

Bottom line is that these teams are professional teams and the have ALWAYS gone where they can make money. If they were in it for the love of the sport, they’d be running Nationals and Regionals.

owsucker -

There was a time Robin Miller would have been screaming over such travesities to American Open Wheel Racing. Instead he glossed over them because I am convinced he no longer is an objective reporter, rather a writer with an agenda.

Robin Miller has ALWAYS had an agenda. The only difference is that his new target is CCWS.

I think we will hear an announcement one way or the other after the hoopla from the Daytona 500 is over.  It only makes sense to me to do it this way.  IMHO I think the deal is done and just a matter of time now.

It’s this simple.... CC is in absolutely no position to negotiate anything.  They are just buying time to see which way this all goes down.  IRL has the INDY 500.  If that’s the big bargaining chip, so be it....that’s just the way it is like it or not.  That is where the money is and that’s where all the drivers, teams, and owners want to be and want to win.  Things will work out for all involved.

At first (many years ago) I saw Tony George as the “bad guy”.
Now,I will watch ,support,and care about the IRL. These other clowns are making a bad situation even worse. I just hope Tony will get Laguna Seca back on the schedule.
The best Drivers in the world deserve to race on the best Racetrack in the world.

I think that Robin speaks for the fans that are ready to see the sport we love come under one roof…

I hoped that IRL would fail...then I hoped that CART would fail...when it did I celebrated until CCWS was created and then I hoped IRL failed, and now I hope that Champ Car fails…

Oval racing is awesome, but I prefer permanent road courses...Monaco is the crown jewel of F1, but a lousy race...so many times we try to do a street race and end up with railroad tracks running through it...CC

Just please put humpty dumpty back together...we can still talk smack on TG or the Amigos, but I would rather Marco and Graham racing together...Dornboos and Vitor...Newman back at Indy...Michael back at Long Beach…

Perhaps Robin has relied too much on his one source, but I think all of us, even the CCFers want to see a healthy series, and not a bunch of half broke, ride buyers driving spec cars worrying about minimum car counts every week.

The only thing pathetic and sad here is this sudden CYA on the part of Miller. After trumpeting story after sellout story these past weeks, suddenly none of his “shoe-in-of-the-week” prognostications have come true. Realizing he may just have personally bootstrapped rumour, innuendo, atrocious journalism, wishful thinking and his misplaced faith in Tony George and the Anemic Crapwagons into an unsupportable house of cards, suddenly he writes that he actually doesn’t have a clue what’s going on. Of course, it wouldn’t be a Miller tale if he didn’t throw some half-baked rumours into a remarkably defensive (what’s wrong, afraid people will stop believing how awesomely plugged-in you are?) screed, so we get some giggling about his insiders giving him top tips about the insidious goings-on inside Eeeevil ChampCar. Presumably, those tips are as well-founded as the bankruptcy story, and the Motegi race move story. Quality journalism, at any rate.

Kudos, SpeedTV. Keep flushing your credibility down the drain with this hack.

For those of us that have followed Miller for a number of years knows that he is right more often than he is wrong.  Obviosuly, something is going on since many of the major players have said so.  If this was all blown out of proportion don’t you think that the CCWS community would have gotten together and had some sort of showing of solidarity?  You can go to Derrick Walker’s website and read that even he doesn’t know what is going on.

All this talk is NOT good for CCWS.  How are they suppose to have any luck signing sponsors when they have this news blackout?  If any team was considering jumping to the IRL, the lack of information is encouragement for them to leave.

Personally, my guess is that Gerry Forsythe is the stumbling block.  He still thinks CCWS is the same quality product that CART was ten years ago.  He paid an untold number of millions for all that CART stock that turned out to be worthless, he’s spent millions more on Champ Car and he expects a return on his investment.  Sorry, Gerry .... ain’t gunna happen.

If there is going to be a Champ Car season in 2008 they better make an announcement and make it soon.

http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/article/report-champ-car-indycar-deal-done/