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Hey Bob, I have a nit to pick!

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armco - 07 July 2008 09:55 PM
My English teaching taught that the proper statement would be " Steve, David and I....."



Maybe I have been wrong all these years ohh



seriously, how can this be so difficult?

i had an icecream -> steve, dave and i had an icecream.
join me this afternoon -> join steve, dave and me this afternoon.

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Why all the fuss about speaking proper English? Is anyone going to be traveling to England anytime soon?

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Traveling can be spelled with 2 L's also. (Don't start) smile

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armco - 07 July 2008 09:55 PM
My English teaching taught that the proper statement would be " Steve, David and I....."



Maybe I have been wrong all these years ohh


If you would say 'Join me for an ice cream.' then you would say 'Join Steve, David and me for an ice cream.'

If you say 'I will be going for ice cream.' then you would say 'Steve, David and I, will be going for ice cream.'

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mike1234 - 21 July 2008 07:54 PM
Why all the fuss about speaking proper English? Is anyone going to be traveling to England anytime soon?

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Traveling can be spelled with 2 L's also. (Don't start) smile


Granted, I took college English a good many years ago but I remember being told at that time that the english we speak in America is closer to the english that was spoken at the time of the revolution. The British english has wandered farther afield over the last 200 years.

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mike1234 - 21 July 2008 07:54 PM
Why all the fuss about speaking proper English? . . .


The original poster is correct. Myself for the objective me or the nominative I is one of those genteelisms that give genteelisms a bad name. Those who use it are apt to also use the barbaric "between you and I."

No one objects to Varsha's and the others' use of vernacular and other informal modes of speech. But myself for me or I is silly and pompous, and it reflects badly on them.

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Gurney - 22 July 2008 01:29 PM
mike1234 - 21 July 2008 07:54 PM
Why all the fuss about speaking proper English? . . .


The original poster is correct. Myself for the objective me or the nominative I is one of those genteelisms that give genteelisms a bad name. Those who use it are apt to also use the barbaric "between you and I."

No one objects to Varsha's and the others' use of vernacular and other informal modes of speech. But myself for me or I is silly and pompous, and it reflects badly on them.


Thank you. Finally, other race fans that appreciate proper grammar and the way that it reflects upon the sport.

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English is a living language, which means it is constantly evolving.

Grammatical standards change... which is why I laugh when people get wound up over something so minor.

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risdo - 23 July 2008 03:10 PM
English is a living language, which means it is constantly evolving.

Grammatical standards change... which is why I laugh when people get wound up over something so minor.


Nobody has to "save" English. It is extraordinarily supple and vigorous. The thing is to distinguish between mutations and excrescences. That is worth doing.

So responded Herman Wouk to the question Is there a need to save the English language?

Of course all living languages are continuously changing, and that is overall a good thing, but not all changes are good ones. The fact remains, myself for me or I, popular though it may be, is an excrescence.