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Posted: 16 June 2008 11:40 PM
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garyb425 - 16 June 2008 10:25 PM
No idea - I don't follow SBK that closely.
Thats a shame. Haga really is a blast to watch.
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I watched the last 2 races, more or less. Just doesn't hold my interest. I view it as mostly a field of also-rans.
(please note the words 'I view'. It's my opinion, not forcing it on anyone else)
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Posted: 17 June 2008 08:05 AM
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Yeah, Bayliss is an also ran. When he can ride as a wild-card in MotoGP and smoke the field.
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as a fan of colin edwards, i would think you would find a field of "also rans" of particular interest, gary
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Yes, the grass at Nurburgring looked very nice... as did the track in general. It is a world class facility after all. The racing was great on the track as well. Maybe they just had better camera angles then at Miller, than helped you appreciate it more. That turn towards the end, that they said was 5th gear/wide open, was great to watch.
Being a Haga fan must be really frustrating. I mean, when you stick with a guy like Rolfo... at least when he finished 16th you arent that disappointed. Haga on the other hand, will have a race like this and show the kind of form that could easily win him a title... yet some weekends he just doesnt show up, or does something really stupid. Makes you nuts.
People were saying the track suited the Yams (see D. Checa showing better than all season), and Yam Italia made some major engine upgrades that supposedly helped out on tourqe and top end. So that could be part of the reason Haga and Corser looked so dominant as well.
Bayliss looks like he is struggling, and the repeated mistakes into Turn 1 were pretty bad I have to say. It isnt like anybody else got it wrong so often.
Michelle Fabrizio was upset with Xaus, and with good reason. Ruben really is an idiot sometimes on the track. I dont know if he is a dumb guy in real life, but he sure looks like a moron out there. After the hand signal from Fabrizio, they interviewd Tardozzi in the pit and he said Ruben was being "stupid". Not what you want to hear from the big boss.
As for tracks. Would much rather see WSBK go to the revised Hockenheim or Sachsenring than that POS Lausetzring. That track is the worst on the calendar by far (including Miller!).
And yes, the A1 ring was a great track. Great layout and fantastic backdrop in the forest like that. Another track that should come back.
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Posted: 17 June 2008 09:33 AM
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The turn 1 at that has to be a ##### for anyone. I bet the elevation change is incredible when you see it in person. I think more tracks should have corners like that. And more Laguna Seca type corkscrew's. Really separate the men from the boys.
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Wait, Joe B, so the guy who "smoked the MotoGP field" a couple of years ago is really just a "boy". Interesting.
Hate to say it, but Troy is looking a bit old lately. So is Biaggi. Corser on the otherhand looks good.
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I missed the coverage on Speed, did it even mention the hail before race 1? I just watched both sbk and the ss races on worldsbk.com. SS race was a good one too.
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Posted: 17 June 2008 11:18 AM
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robertorolfo - 17 June 2008 09:57 AM
Wait, Joe B, so the guy who "smoked the MotoGP field" a couple of years ago is really just a "boy". Interesting.
Hate to say it, but Troy is looking a bit old lately. So is Biaggi. Corser on the otherhand looks good.
Just because he went wide in the corner a couple times.

Looking old lately - He's still leading the championship.
Corser has one good event and now he's looking good to you.
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robertorolfo - 17 June 2008 08:57 AM
Being a Haga fan must be really frustrating. I mean, when you stick with a guy like Rolfo... at least when he finished 16th you arent that disappointed. Haga on the other hand, will have a race like this and show the kind of form that could easily win him a title... yet some weekends he just doesnt show up, or does something really stupid. Makes you nuts.
I'm a Haga fan & it is not frustrating at all. He gives his best every race & that is all his fans can ask of him. I think it is unfair to say "yet some weekends he just doesnt [sic] show up, or does something really stupid.", he has been remarkably consistent since his return to WSBK & is usually fighting for a podium position every race. Also other than perhaps his ill-advised finger wagging at Max @ Qatar, he hasn't done anything that can be remotely labeled 'stupid'.
I will admit he has failed to capitalize on his opportunities, we all know about his 'ma huang' incident that probably cost him the title in 2000 & the mechanical gremlins that seemed to haunt the Renegade/Koji Ducati team in 2004 & he missed out on the championship by a mere two points last year. But even if he never wins a world title, he is still one of the most exciting racers of his era & one of the few riders, regardless of his starting position on the grid or how well he qualified, is an imminent threat to win the race.
Congrats Nori on the double @ Nurburgring^^