kenfan176 - 18 May 2008 12:30 PM

AMP2003 - 18 May 2008 12:24 PM

After watching the my recording of the All Star race I realize that the race wasn't quite as boring as I made it out to be. There was quite a bit of side by side but it was deeper in the field. I think that I was just really frustraed that the 24 sucked so bad and was looking for something to hate on.

To me the race just sucked, it didn't matter how good or bad your car was if you were in the lead no one could touch you. It also didn't matter how much better your car was than the person in front of you it's going to take you 20 laps to pass them. There is a difference in good racing and making the cars so you have to spend half the race trying to get by a guy who was 2 tenths slower than you until you caught up to his rear bumper.

You do not want racing. What you want is "passing."

RaceAficionado - 17 May 2008 10:21 PM

Just reminded me of how much cars make the difference.
Juan and his car were doomed from the beginning to be mid packers. Those cars in the front are just so much faster . . . .

jpm should be about equal to the # 9 they are both dodges and have been running about the same all year. The # 9 did ok!!! I don't think the # 42 made any of the right adjustments poor crew chief or poor driver feed back. just went backwards all night.

i've enjoyed every race this season.

speedname - 18 May 2008 03:01 PM

RaceAficionado - 17 May 2008 10:21 PM

Just reminded me of how much cars make the difference.
Juan and his car were doomed from the beginning to be mid packers. Those cars in the front are just so much faster . . . .

jpm should be about equal to the # 9 they are both dodges and have been running about the same all year. The # 9 did ok!!! I don't think the # 42 made any of the right adjustments poor crew chief or poor driver feed back. just went backwards all night.

yep, whatever the reason was, Juan was going no where towards the front. The more times they went around on each of the "quarters" - the guys in the front just kept on distancing themselves.

And as for Dodges - whatever the difference is between Dodges, I just keep on hoping for Juan's team to bring it up a notch. It did seem to be happening when he was consistently getting better a couple of races back but then the team has gone back to mid pack mode.

I'm a fan of Juan, and I will keep on hoping for the better as Juan does his best to help bring his team to contender mode.

NoviVespa3 - 18 May 2008 02:46 PM

kenfan176 - 18 May 2008 12:30 PM

AMP2003 - 18 May 2008 12:24 PM

After watching the my recording of the All Star race I realize that the race wasn't quite as boring as I made it out to be. There was quite a bit of side by side but it was deeper in the field. I think that I was just really frustraed that the 24 sucked so bad and was looking for something to hate on.

To me the race just sucked, it didn't matter how good or bad your car was if you were in the lead no one could touch you. It also didn't matter how much better your car was than the person in front of you it's going to take you 20 laps to pass them. There is a difference in good racing and making the cars so you have to spend half the race trying to get by a guy who was 2 tenths slower than you until you caught up to his rear bumper.

You do not want racing. What you want is "passing."

What I want is that if a car is way faster than another car they can pass them without spending 10 minutes doing so. I saw cars last night catch other cars by about 2 tenths a lap only when they got to the rear of the other car they couldn't make it around them because of the "dirty air". The main reason NASCAR switched to the CoT other than safety was to get rid of the aero push you get when you are behind the other cars on the track and they have failed miserably.

I love it when people complain about how hard it is to pass. Take a look at the 18 and 31 just about every race. They don't seem to have much of a problem passing.

FiascoNamedLupe - 18 May 2008 04:39 PM

I love it when people complain about how hard it is to pass. Take a look at the 18 and 31 just about every race. They don't seem to have much of a problem passing.

Well meither did Matt last night but I was just saying the problem they were trying to fix in the old cars they only made worse. Even the drivers of the 18 and 31 talk about how much harder it is to pass in these cars than the old ones.

It was Actually a "Good Race". Not a CrashFest.
It was an overall Good Race with various leaders and lead changes.
I don't know what you guys are complaining about unless you NEED "Drama" to keep breathing.

Michael_Xi - 18 May 2008 04:52 PM

It was Actually a "Good Race". Not a CrashFest.
It was an overall Good Race with various leaders and lead changes.
I don't know what you guys are complaining about unless you NEED "Drama" to keep breathing.

That is your opinion not a fact. I don't need a crash fest to mkae it a good race but some passing would be nice. The only lead changes I saw were on restarts, pit stops, or when the leader had trouble. I guess NASCAR is getting more and more like F1 all the time.

BORING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!